selling wine, single bottles.
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pneumothorax

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1,837 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Hi all, looking for some advice to help out a friend. He has been given a small amount of old wines as a thank you for work and wants to get a fair price for them, hopefully paying for his summer holiday. The sites I have found only seem to be interested in cases rather than such a small collection.
This is what he has.

Château Prieuré-Lichine Margaux 1982
Oriahovitsa Cabernet Sauvignon 1981
Château Prieuré-Lichine margaux 1979
Château Prieuré-Lichine margaux 1979
Moët & Chandon Champagne Cuvée Dom Pérignon Vintage 1980
Baron Philippe de Rothschild Mouton Cadet, Bordeaux 1984
Château Prieuré-Lichine Margaux 1982

Any advice really appreciated.




calibrax

4,788 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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I'm sure someone with better knowledge will be along soon to advise, but as I understand it without a track record showing the wine has been correctly stored, any value would be severely compromised.

Davey S2

13,394 posts

283 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Yes hard to sell single bottles without evidence of how they have been stored.

Stick a few big steaks on the bbq and crack 'em open!

dom9

8,666 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Will be interested in how this goes....

I have a bottle of '79 Krug that I am in two minds whether to drink!

That's been kept in secure, underground storage (in the UK).

curlyks2

1,075 posts

175 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Current prices (per bottle) that these can be picked up for below. These are broker prices, exc. duty and VAT, for wines with a proven provenance and storage records. Retail (shop) prices will be higher and in this case probably even more unrealistic/unachievable: as others have (or no doubt will have) pointed out, values will be much less for anything that hasn't been in appropriate (preferably professional) storage. If you do have records etc. you still wouldn't get these prices as the broker/sales-agent will want their cut.

Château Prieuré-Lichine Margaux 1982 £60
Oriahovitsa Cabernet Sauvignon 1981 £??
Château Prieuré-Lichine margaux 1979 £30
Château Prieuré-Lichine margaux 1979 £30
Moët & Chandon Champagne Cuvée Dom Pérignon Vintage 1980 £200
Baron Philippe de Rothschild Mouton Cadet, Bordeaux 1984 £230
Château Prieuré-Lichine Margaux 1982 £60

Personally I'd drink them. Special occasion(s) for the Dom Perignon and Rothschild, with bottle(s) of something else on standby in case they're off.

Price source: www.frw.co.uk (no connection).

Edited by curlyks2 on Tuesday 10th June 16:45

pneumothorax

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1,837 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Thanks. Looks like he isn't going to be getting that holiday!As you say, I am thinking he best drink them..

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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pneumothorax said:
Thanks. Looks like he isn't going to be getting that holiday!As you say, I am thinking he best drink them..
Could be a good start to a Withnail and I night.

LooneyTunes

9,363 posts

187 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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curlyks2 said:
Current prices (per bottle) that these can be picked up for below.

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Baron Philippe de Rothschild Mouton Cadet, Bordeaux 1984 £230
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Personally I'd drink them. Special occasion(s) for the Dom Perignon and Rothschild, with bottle(s) of something else on standby in case they're off.
Mouton Cadet is not Mouton Rothschild!

curlyks2

1,075 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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LooneyTunes said:
curlyks2 said:
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Baron Philippe de Rothschild Mouton Cadet, Bordeaux 1984 £230
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Mouton Cadet is not Mouton Rothschild!
Yes you're right. Will put my glasses on next time. Price revision: £40 if you're lucky.

soad

34,627 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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dom9 said:
Will be interested in how this goes....

I have a bottle of '79 Krug that I am in two minds whether to drink!

That's been kept in secure, underground storage (in the UK).
Keep it for a special occasion?

dom9

8,666 posts

238 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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soad said:
Keep it for a special occasion?
That was always the plan - keep it for marriage/ first child but neither of those things are currently close!

Will it be undrinkable (more undrinkable) in another few years?

Not really interested in selling (it was a nice gift that means a lot) but I am wondering if I should invent a special occasion ASAP!

Davey S2

13,394 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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dom9 said:
soad said:
Keep it for a special occasion?
That was always the plan - keep it for marriage/ first child but neither of those things are currently close!

Will it be undrinkable (more undrinkable) in another few years?

Not really interested in selling (it was a nice gift that means a lot) but I am wondering if I should invent a special occasion ASAP!
We've just had our first child so as a special favour to you dom I'm prepared to drink it on your behalf.

I know, I know. Its an overwhelming gesture but that's the sort of bloke I am

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dom9

8,666 posts

238 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Davey S2 said:
We've just had our first child so as a special favour to you dom I'm prepared to drink it on your behalf.

I know, I know. Its an overwhelming gesture but that's the sort of bloke I am

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What a kind and generous offer! This is exactly what PH is all about!

However, since you now have a child to look after, I cannot possibly offer you the champagne as I'd hate for you to be unable to give Davey Jnr the care and attention they need wink

ErnestWorthing

69 posts

215 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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dom9 said:
That was always the plan - keep it for marriage/ first child but neither of those things are currently close!

Will it be undrinkable (more undrinkable) in another few years?

Not really interested in selling (it was a nice gift that means a lot) but I am wondering if I should invent a special occasion ASAP!
Shame, I'd love to make you an offer! The '64 is drinking well at the moment, the '79 has got a lot of life left in it. Older Champagne is quite an acquired taste mind, it's unlikely to have many (any?) bubbles!

ErnestWorthing

69 posts

215 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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You can sell individual bottles through bidforwine, but only the Dom Perignon looks to have any value, even then, not a great vintage

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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I'm sure the person gifting the wine intended them to be enjoyed rather than sold on. I have a friend who has a nice wine collection and he'd likely be offended if I decided to sell the gifts that he'd given me.

Just get them down your neck! drunk

dom9

8,666 posts

238 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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ErnestWorthing said:
Shame, I'd love to make you an offer! The '64 is drinking well at the moment, the '79 has got a lot of life left in it. Older Champagne is quite an acquired taste mind, it's unlikely to have many (any?) bubbles!
I'll bear the offer in mind but since the person who gave me it has been married and had two kids since... I have a plan forming!

If it does get drunk, I'll let you all know how it turns out smile