Chord Hugo Portable HiFi DAC For Car
Chord Hugo Portable HiFi DAC For Car
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GTIAnni

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157 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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I came across this little device which yes is expensive but I use it to fly alot, however I thought I would have a play with it connected in my car and I was amazed at the sound improvement. Not only that but I was also able to access both my spotify and deezer account whilst travelling about in the motor. This was a revelation for me as I have so many playlists on there but have never been able to listen in my car.

http://www.custom-cable.co.uk/chord-hugo-portable-...

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Thought the Price was good. The original had a problem accepting some full size connectors.

probedb

824 posts

243 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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"but I use it to fly alot". At £1200 I'd expect it to fly as well wink

budgie smuggler

5,955 posts

183 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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I'm sure it sounds lovely, but I had to laugh at the extra £200 they want for the 'slightly modified' chassis.

website said:
The slightly modified chassis will has altered RCA inputs in order to accomodate some slightly larger connectors from a few more cable manufacturers.
In other words, we fked up and make the cable hole too small for the type of cables likely to be used on a £1000+ DAC. hehe

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

291 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Forgive my question, but what does it do?

I know what a DAC does, but I'm unaware of any mobile device that can output a digital signal.... They output a analogue audio output, so how does this work?

Does it re-encode to digital and then convert back, or is it simply acting as an analogies amplifier in this installation?

In which case £1200 seems a bit rich to boost the voltage of the signal....

GTIAnni

Original Poster:

9 posts

157 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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It's a new generation....as of iOS 7 all iPhones and pads can output a digital signal using a CCK. Android will will a specific app. It's the DAC itself that's the money! All FPGA rather than off the shelf chips. It truly is amazing! Use it in my main HiFi at home from my Sonos and I have to admit, it take the sound to another level. (PS i'm into my HiFi)

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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budgie smuggler said:
I'm sure it sounds lovely, but I had to laugh at the extra £200 they want for the 'slightly modified' chassis.

website said:
The slightly modified chassis will has altered RCA inputs in order to accomodate some slightly larger connectors from a few more cable manufacturers.
In other words, we fked up and make the cable hole too small for the type of cables likely to be used on a £1000+ DAC. hehe
The "Normal" price is £1400, the £1100 is a discount because "some" cables won't fit. It's the Best DAC under £5K in the world barring the QBD76 and then adds on Headphones and Battery Operation. It's also designed by a Brit and built by a British firm. You want second best go ahead and buy it.

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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chris.mapey said:
Forgive my question, but what does it do?

I know what a DAC does, but I'm unaware of any mobile device that can output a digital signal.... They output a analogue audio output, so how does this work?

Does it re-encode to digital and then convert back, or is it simply acting as an analogies amplifier in this installation?

In which case £1200 seems a bit rich to boost the voltage of the signal....
It takes a Digital signal and outputs it either via Phono Line or variable level or though a dedicated Headphone Amplifier. It's input count includes Bluetooth APTX, Coax and Optical SP/DIF and standard and High Speed USB. It also plays any PCM input up to 24/384 and DSD128 files which is better than SACD which uses DSD64.

In Short you will struggle to find something it will not work with.

GTIAnni

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157 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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telecat said:
The "Normal" price is £1400, the £1100 is a discount because "some" cables won't fit. It's the Best DAC under £5K in the world barring the QBD76 and then adds on Headphones and Battery Operation. It's also designed by a Brit and built by a British firm. You want second best go ahead and buy it.
I think even Rob Watts the designer has said it is better than the QBD76. It really is astonishing when connected to an iPad.

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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GTIAnni said:
telecat said:
The "Normal" price is £1400, the £1100 is a discount because "some" cables won't fit. It's the Best DAC under £5K in the world barring the QBD76 and then adds on Headphones and Battery Operation. It's also designed by a Brit and built by a British firm. You want second best go ahead and buy it.
I think even Rob Watts the designer has said it is better than the QBD76. It really is astonishing when connected to an iPad.
I Think the replacement will be out soon. Hopefully with a HDMI interface.

GTIAnni

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9 posts

157 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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HDMI interface? And SDCARD input biggrin

StuH

2,557 posts

297 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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Wonderful bit of kit - very jealous - well until I get one in a few weeks thumbup

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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I have had the Single box DPA PDM1, DPA PDM1 mark 2,The two box DPA PDM1 Mark three. They used the SAA73 bitstream DAC chips. My next purchase was the sublime SX128 using the current FPGA Tech. I now have the Chord DAC64. Basically I am waiting for the Next generation of the DAC64/QBD76 series hopefully with HDMI inputs.

Chord DACS using the FPGA have been the DSC1500 which had a separate Plug in Board.
The DAC64 and the DAC64 MK2 with a proper power switch and dual inputs for the BLU Transport.
The QBD76 which is a replacement for the DAC64.
The Now forgotten Indigo which included a modded Ipod as a digital storage device. It was a match for the Main Reference Range.
QuteHD Matches the Chordette Range
QuteEX with Better Input and output resolution
HUGO as discussed.

Other FPGA DACS designed by Rob Watts were the Tube Technology Fulcrum.

Other FPGA DACs Audio Synthesis DAX Discrete. That could use "Audio Synthesis Link" with a Transport that had been converted to transmit SACD via the ASL links.

NAD M51 it has a HDMI input so you can use a BLU-RAY Player as a Transport. And An Output to TV

Edited by telecat on Saturday 14th June 12:28

GTIAnni

Original Poster:

9 posts

157 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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It's a very good piece of gear! I heard the Resonessence Concero which is FPGA with an ESS DAC chip and that is pretty good but the Hugo is another level entirely. Waiting to hear the QBD76 replacement. Noticed that they are now doing the modified chassis at £1199. Deal!

gjc10212

271 posts

230 months

Friday 13th June 2014
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Looks like a great DAC, I'm tempted to try it... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flWVG7uK9Ts

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th June 2014
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GTIAnni said:
It's a very good piece of gear! I heard the Resonessence Concero which is FPGA with an ESS DAC chip and that is pretty good but the Hugo is another level entirely. Waiting to hear the QBD76 replacement. Noticed that they are now doing the modified chassis at £1199. Deal!
The DAC won't be as good as the one "programmed" into the FPGA on the HUGO. Rob Watts basically uses Thousands of "Taps" in his DAC's whereas commercially available DAC chips only use hundreds.

Here's an interesting article on the HUGO. The design was initially for the SPARTAN3 FPGA and a very expensive Reference DAC. Then the SPARTAN 6 was released which was much cheaper and could take the same "program". Hence the HUGO

http://www.aumacoustics.com/robert_watts.html

GTIAnni

Original Poster:

9 posts

157 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Yeah, I think the Hugo is 26000+ taps from memory! I wonder how many the QBD MK4 will have. :-)

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Monday 16th June 2014
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Reading those articles 100,000 seems feasible. Interesting to see how much more expensive the unit would have been without the Spartan 6.

telecat

8,528 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Just read an Interview with Rob Watts. The QBD76 replacement is on it's way. It's going to have 10x the capacity of the HUGO!!

rich83

15,554 posts

162 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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You could tell a difference? Playing MP3s? In a car? With stock radio? And stock Speakers? Traveling at 70MPH? Really?