Stage 2 Supercharged C63 by MSL performance
Discussion
As most will be aware I took the plunge and upgraded from the Stage 1 Weistec Supercharger to Stage 2.
The difference between stage 1 and stage 2 consists of the following:
A smaller pulley (now runs with 8Psi instead of 6Psi)
It requires Long tube headers ( 4 branch manifold) so I now have the full IPE valvetronic sytem
And a re-flash of the ECU.
All the work was carried out by MSL (I wouldn’t trust the car with anyone else these days.
OK so for the headline figures
Stage 1 525 WHP and 440.87 Torque which equates to 620 BHP and 520 lb/ft torque
Stage 2 605.28 WHP and 527.68 Torque which equates to 714 BHP and 622 lb/ft torque
So how does it go……Its insane it really does just pull and pull like a train. I am shocked by how much harder it pulls from Stage 1 to Stage 2. (tested on the MSL ¼ mile drag strip)
So it came for times for goodbye and the 174 mile trip back to Newcastle (I will be back down to MSL soon for our next cunning plan to take shape…….)
Anyway set off and got stuck in rush hour traffic so the car just behavedas it did when it was stock, with the valves closed its probably slightly louder than a stock C63. However open the valves in the exhaust it is much louder with a really deep V8 grumble.
Once I finally got out of the traffic and onto the motorway I noticed at 70-75mph with the valves on the exhaust closed there was a bit of a drone, but only at these speeds so below or slightly above no issues. When you floor it just digs in and accelerates in 3rd as a standard car accelerates in 1st it really does take your breath away. And the noise of the charger screaming and the exhaust note are intoxicating.
With the valves open in the exhaust it’s a whole different story it sounds absolutely mental the engine roar is crazy and the roar from the exhaust is insane…….possibly even a bit much I dare say 50% of people would say it sounds awesome 50% would say its too much……being honest I am still sat on the fence weather I like the sound with the valves open. (I love it with the valves closed)
The rate at how it accelerates at any speed is breath taking and really does push you hard into the seat and you have to stay alert to how quickly the speedo is climbing.
I have a racelogic so I will try and get some figures for acceleration….pointless trying to get 0-60 as my skills feathering the throttle are pretty useless. However real world figures of 50-70 etc I will try and get.
Anyway, I am sure some people will think I am mad and hoping that it will go bang so they can say “ I told you so” However, there will also be a few who will be thinking when should I do it to mine…..the answer is as soon as you can.
All I can say is thanks to Acid and the Team at MSL as they have pulled off another magic act, and that’s another car now in the MSL 700+BHP club (Jims E-class currently running 725Bhp)
The difference between stage 1 and stage 2 consists of the following:
A smaller pulley (now runs with 8Psi instead of 6Psi)
It requires Long tube headers ( 4 branch manifold) so I now have the full IPE valvetronic sytem
And a re-flash of the ECU.
All the work was carried out by MSL (I wouldn’t trust the car with anyone else these days.
OK so for the headline figures
Stage 1 525 WHP and 440.87 Torque which equates to 620 BHP and 520 lb/ft torque
Stage 2 605.28 WHP and 527.68 Torque which equates to 714 BHP and 622 lb/ft torque
So how does it go……Its insane it really does just pull and pull like a train. I am shocked by how much harder it pulls from Stage 1 to Stage 2. (tested on the MSL ¼ mile drag strip)
So it came for times for goodbye and the 174 mile trip back to Newcastle (I will be back down to MSL soon for our next cunning plan to take shape…….)
Anyway set off and got stuck in rush hour traffic so the car just behavedas it did when it was stock, with the valves closed its probably slightly louder than a stock C63. However open the valves in the exhaust it is much louder with a really deep V8 grumble.
Once I finally got out of the traffic and onto the motorway I noticed at 70-75mph with the valves on the exhaust closed there was a bit of a drone, but only at these speeds so below or slightly above no issues. When you floor it just digs in and accelerates in 3rd as a standard car accelerates in 1st it really does take your breath away. And the noise of the charger screaming and the exhaust note are intoxicating.
With the valves open in the exhaust it’s a whole different story it sounds absolutely mental the engine roar is crazy and the roar from the exhaust is insane…….possibly even a bit much I dare say 50% of people would say it sounds awesome 50% would say its too much……being honest I am still sat on the fence weather I like the sound with the valves open. (I love it with the valves closed)
The rate at how it accelerates at any speed is breath taking and really does push you hard into the seat and you have to stay alert to how quickly the speedo is climbing.
I have a racelogic so I will try and get some figures for acceleration….pointless trying to get 0-60 as my skills feathering the throttle are pretty useless. However real world figures of 50-70 etc I will try and get.
Anyway, I am sure some people will think I am mad and hoping that it will go bang so they can say “ I told you so” However, there will also be a few who will be thinking when should I do it to mine…..the answer is as soon as you can.
All I can say is thanks to Acid and the Team at MSL as they have pulled off another magic act, and that’s another car now in the MSL 700+BHP club (Jims E-class currently running 725Bhp)
In low down revs you get a subdued wine but once it's above 3500 rpm it sounds incredible the induction roar and whine from the supercharger.
It still has that deep V8 rumble again at the lower revs but since fitting the headers it now sounds like an old school American muscle car.
The IPE valved exhaust makes a massive difference from fairly subdued to just insane.
http://youtu.be/sUHS_Dk8dP4 (Supercharger whine at stage 1 with IPE exhaust)
It still has that deep V8 rumble again at the lower revs but since fitting the headers it now sounds like an old school American muscle car.
The IPE valved exhaust makes a massive difference from fairly subdued to just insane.
http://youtu.be/sUHS_Dk8dP4 (Supercharger whine at stage 1 with IPE exhaust)
Twincharge said:
I thought the conversion cost to Stage One was incredible value for money. I have spent more, much more on lesser cars.
I can easily see myself taking the plunge in maybe a year.
It really is a game changer, pretty much 200 bhp increase on a stock car for bolting on the supercharger.I can easily see myself taking the plunge in maybe a year.
The amazing thing is it's docile around the town, no sudden surge of power or flat spots. Just constant power. The only negative side effect is having a sore face due to constantly grinning ha ha
If you get the opportunity take the plunge and do it......you won't regret it.
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