993 as a daily ?
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rObArtes said:
as the title suggests, would be sensible to run a 993 as a daily. i only do around 20 round trip each day, so not a massive amount of weekly miles other than what i get up to each weekend. opinion please
No problem at all Rob, as long as you keep on top of the maintenance and are willing to run with the small compromises.Just buy a decent one in the first place.
hi Peter, have been keeping my eye open for one, since you took me out in yours last year (again thanks for that!!)
something maybe coming up in a month to two, so may have to scratch that itch at last. have priced the insurance and it comes up at £500. plus expecting around 24mpg. have budgeted around £1k for a years servicing (exc. tyres) what else should include for ? is the mpg realistic ?
something maybe coming up in a month to two, so may have to scratch that itch at last. have priced the insurance and it comes up at £500. plus expecting around 24mpg. have budgeted around £1k for a years servicing (exc. tyres) what else should include for ? is the mpg realistic ?
I've been using mine as a daily for the past week as I've been local and love it. The car definitely feels better for being driven more regularly. In fact driving home in the sunshine tonight I contemplated could I hand over my company car and use it as a daily. I think the answer is a serious yes, even in traffic the constant burble and overrun of the oil cooled is just heaven, then the very occasional opening up of the throttle, so intoxicating. I've not had the radio on the whole week, so much more enjoyable than my company merc.
But then I won't do it, the fear being that specialness will be lost.
To me there are a few essentials to make the experience more rewarding, suspension/geometry refresh c£2k and RSR exhaust and Wayne Schofield remap c£1k. I've done a lot to my car but those are the ones that add most to the experience.
But then I won't do it, the fear being that specialness will be lost.
To me there are a few essentials to make the experience more rewarding, suspension/geometry refresh c£2k and RSR exhaust and Wayne Schofield remap c£1k. I've done a lot to my car but those are the ones that add most to the experience.
I've been using mine as a daily for the past week as I've been local and love it. The car definitely feels better for being driven more regularly. In fact driving home in the sunshine tonight I contemplated could I hand over my company car and use it as a daily. I think the answer is a serious yes, even in traffic the constant burble and overrun of the oil cooled is just heaven, then the very occasional opening up of the throttle, so intoxicating. I've not had the radio on the whole week, so much more enjoyable than my company merc.
But then I won't do it, the fear being that specialness will be lost.
To me there are a few essentials to make the experience more rewarding, suspension/geometry refresh c£2k and RSR exhaust and Wayne Schofield remap c£1k. I've done a lot to my car but those are the ones that add most to the experience.
But then I won't do it, the fear being that specialness will be lost.
To me there are a few essentials to make the experience more rewarding, suspension/geometry refresh c£2k and RSR exhaust and Wayne Schofield remap c£1k. I've done a lot to my car but those are the ones that add most to the experience.
I've been using mine as a daily for the past week as I've been local and love it. The car definitely feels better for being driven more regularly. In fact driving home in the sunshine tonight I contemplated could I hand over my company car and use it as a daily. I think the answer is a serious yes, even in traffic the constant burble and overrun of the oil cooled is just heaven, then the very occasional opening up of the throttle, so intoxicating. I've not had the radio on the whole week, so much more enjoyable than my company merc.
But then I won't do it, the fear being that specialness will be lost.
To me there are a few essentials to make the experience more rewarding, suspension/geometry refresh c£2k and RSR exhaust and Wayne Schofield remap c£1k. I've done a lot to my car but those are the ones that add most to the experience.
But then I won't do it, the fear being that specialness will be lost.
To me there are a few essentials to make the experience more rewarding, suspension/geometry refresh c£2k and RSR exhaust and Wayne Schofield remap c£1k. I've done a lot to my car but those are the ones that add most to the experience.
rObArtes said:
hi Peter, have been keeping my eye open for one, since you took me out in yours last year (again thanks for that!!)
something maybe coming up in a month to two, so may have to scratch that itch at last. have priced the insurance and it comes up at £500. plus expecting around 24mpg. have budgeted around £1k for a years servicing (exc. tyres) what else should include for ? is the mpg realistic ?
Your welcome mate.something maybe coming up in a month to two, so may have to scratch that itch at last. have priced the insurance and it comes up at £500. plus expecting around 24mpg. have budgeted around £1k for a years servicing (exc. tyres) what else should include for ? is the mpg realistic ?
24mpg is possible if you drive er....normally. I am not sure I get near 20 but then I just drive it purely for pleasure. However, it was my daily in the first year I had it. It was faultless.
£1k a year maintenance a year might be a little optomistic, I think its nearer £2k. The servicing is ok but there will be some big expenditures on the way. Yes, they are biult like brick s
t houses but they are getting on a bit now and things wear out and rust. Make sure you check any purchase over very carefully or get someone who know these cars to do it. A shiny car can hide £5-10k of work. Seriously.
Good luck!
rObArtes said:
think you could help me look over one, if it comes up Peter? pay you for your time fella
If its not too far and I can spare the time, I will gladly look over one for you. I wouldn't want any money off you. I am no specialist but I know these cars pretty well.I just cannot promise though, my lifes pretty busy!
Let me know if you find one and I will see what I can do.
As a D/D - yes, for sure. Did similar mileage to what you are contemplating virtually every week for 12 years in one of mine with total reliability. 25 mpg was possible without trying too hard - but 'fun' means less!
As Molly says though you need to keep on top of maintenance and I'd agree nearer £2k p.a. + extra for the upgrades/alternative jobs. Great cars though and will serve you well if you can get hold of a good 'un!
As Molly says though you need to keep on top of maintenance and I'd agree nearer £2k p.a. + extra for the upgrades/alternative jobs. Great cars though and will serve you well if you can get hold of a good 'un!
Each to their own etc. but I really need to be in the right mood to drive my 993, otherwise it's just a noisy, bumpy old car with heavy steering and brakes, that attracts too much attention.
On the right day and on the right roads, it's an immensely rewarding experience. One that I look forward to and savour afterwards. Not one that I would want on every journey.
On the right day and on the right roads, it's an immensely rewarding experience. One that I look forward to and savour afterwards. Not one that I would want on every journey.
Always strikes me as a daft question. I mean Is there any car that can't be used as a daily? Probably not, it just depends what you are willing to put up with and the only person who can answer that is you.
I'm sure there are people out there that would be happy to use an Ariel Atom as a daily (no worse than a motorbike after all). It's not for me and never will be and no matter what the Pistonheads massive say.
In short try it and make up your own mind. You're unlikely to lose money on a 993 if it turns out not to be for you.
I'm sure there are people out there that would be happy to use an Ariel Atom as a daily (no worse than a motorbike after all). It's not for me and never will be and no matter what the Pistonheads massive say.
In short try it and make up your own mind. You're unlikely to lose money on a 993 if it turns out not to be for you.
Used mine for 3 years, in South London.
Being a Tiptronic made it a breeze in traffic.
15-17 mpg.
Funny because one year I laid it up for the winter, when I used it in the spring it had loads of silly problems to sort. Others years none to sort, so they really do work better by being used.
Being a Tiptronic made it a breeze in traffic.
15-17 mpg.
Funny because one year I laid it up for the winter, when I used it in the spring it had loads of silly problems to sort. Others years none to sort, so they really do work better by being used.
Pickled Piper said:
One of the chaos on here was hiring his 993 out via a third party Company.
Would be worth trying one for a few days if you're not sure
'Chaos' Kim - interesting nickname.Would be worth trying one for a few days if you're not sure
My experience of the 993 is that I bought the best condition one I could find, and it has cost very little to run.
Servicing is an oil change every 12k, and plugs every 24k miles, so it shouldn't cost 2k per year in servicing.
However as mentioned above if you buy a tired one, which needs a suspension refresh, work on the windscreen surrounds or the rear chassis legs, or leaking cam-covers etc etc then it will cost you an amount to sort in the first place.
Louder exhausts and a remap are nice but not essential. Having the suspension in good condition and to your taste is.
I could live every moment of my life in mine, but then I'm not normal.
Traded my Cayman S for a 97' 993 C2 and use it every day and weekends including popping to the shops.
Folded the back seats down two weekends ago and took the dog (English Springer Spaniel) to the kennels then shoved two suitcases in and drove to the airport for our holiday.
As others have said, buy the best you can and always look for all the usual 993 issues yourself - I bought mine from an OPC as a "rust free" example and took their word for it. Well their an OPC and gave a 111 point inspection right ?!
Wrong.
The car was leaking like a sieve in heavy rain showers and when washing the car. The front and rear drivers side (left hand drive car) were sopping wet.
I checked all the drain holes and all were good, so popped down to my local trusted indy.
He removed the windscreen as he thought it may need refitting as that was where the water was coming from, but on removing the windscreen, basically found nothing holding the bottom of the windscreen in place. All the metal had rusted away completely. I have the pictures if interested.
That cost a fortune to have new metal welded into place, made good and re-sprayed.
I've since had a Carnewal exhaust mod, HID headlamps, RS engine mounts and new shocks and springs. But runs like a dream and I love it.
Folded the back seats down two weekends ago and took the dog (English Springer Spaniel) to the kennels then shoved two suitcases in and drove to the airport for our holiday.
As others have said, buy the best you can and always look for all the usual 993 issues yourself - I bought mine from an OPC as a "rust free" example and took their word for it. Well their an OPC and gave a 111 point inspection right ?!
Wrong.
The car was leaking like a sieve in heavy rain showers and when washing the car. The front and rear drivers side (left hand drive car) were sopping wet.
I checked all the drain holes and all were good, so popped down to my local trusted indy.
He removed the windscreen as he thought it may need refitting as that was where the water was coming from, but on removing the windscreen, basically found nothing holding the bottom of the windscreen in place. All the metal had rusted away completely. I have the pictures if interested.
That cost a fortune to have new metal welded into place, made good and re-sprayed.
I've since had a Carnewal exhaust mod, HID headlamps, RS engine mounts and new shocks and springs. But runs like a dream and I love it.
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