Ladies day Ascot
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Not sure about that, I'd say the regular racegoer, particularly over the jumps where the horses come back year after year development great affection for and follow certain horses like a football fan follows his team.
I loved Denman, always wanted him to win even without backing him monetarily and I've got a Denman scarf!
I loved Denman, always wanted him to win even without backing him monetarily and I've got a Denman scarf!
GTIR said:
I'd say 90% of punters don't give a toss about horses per se.
It's all about betting and the "Big win", that rarely comes.
They'd all bet on monkeys if they had to.
There's two sides to racing; trainers, owners, jockeys and media types then the punters. The two are totally different.
Most of the punters at that sort of event don't care about either the horses or the betting.It's all about betting and the "Big win", that rarely comes.
They'd all bet on monkeys if they had to.
There's two sides to racing; trainers, owners, jockeys and media types then the punters. The two are totally different.
It's just another venue to get pissed.
nagsheadwarrior said:
Not sure about that, I'd say the regular racegoer, particularly over the jumps where the horses come back year after year development great affection for and follow certain horses like a football fan follows his team.
I loved Denman, always wanted him to win even without backing him monetarily and I've got a Denman scarf!
I think you'll find that affection is related to a win they've had in the past. I doubt punters go just to watch the race and follow the horses (or jockeys) career without putting money on. It's all about the winning. I loved Denman, always wanted him to win even without backing him monetarily and I've got a Denman scarf!
As soon as that horse/jockey loses they get discarded.
The only people who actually care about the horse is the owner and sometimes the trainer.
Take football, F1 or MotoGP. It's about the sportsperson or event. Not about betting.
Horses is all about the win.
Maybe I'm a cynic but it's what I've noticed in the seven years I've been involved in the industry, on both sides.
GTIR said:
I think you'll find that affection is related to a win they've had in the past. I doubt punters go just to watch the race and follow the horses (or jockeys) career without putting money on. It's all about the winning.
As soon as that horse/jockey loses they get discarded.
The only people who actually care about the horse is the owner and sometimes the trainer.
Take football, F1 or MotoGP. It's about the sportsperson or event. Not about betting.
Horses is all about the win.
Maybe I'm a cynic but it's what I've noticed in the seven years I've been involved in the industry, on both sides.
Not really. For my family and I it's all about love of the horses. We don't own any, but subscribe to the old adage 'it matters more when you've money on it.' The maximum we'd put on is a tenner, and even then it's a fiver e/w on anything above 4/1, so the win isn't really what it's about.As soon as that horse/jockey loses they get discarded.
The only people who actually care about the horse is the owner and sometimes the trainer.
Take football, F1 or MotoGP. It's about the sportsperson or event. Not about betting.
Horses is all about the win.
Maybe I'm a cynic but it's what I've noticed in the seven years I've been involved in the industry, on both sides.
And there are plenty of people that go to the races and don't bet. Generally older people, there for the love of the sport. It's the same with greyhounds actually.
iphonedyou said:
GTIR said:
I think you'll find that affection is related to a win they've had in the past. I doubt punters go just to watch the race and follow the horses (or jockeys) career without putting money on. It's all about the winning.
As soon as that horse/jockey loses they get discarded.
The only people who actually care about the horse is the owner and sometimes the trainer.
Take football, F1 or MotoGP. It's about the sportsperson or event. Not about betting.
Horses is all about the win.
Maybe I'm a cynic but it's what I've noticed in the seven years I've been involved in the industry, on both sides.
Not really. For my family and I it's all about love of the horses. We don't own any, but subscribe to the old adage 'it matters more when you've money on it.' The maximum we'd put on is a tenner, and even then it's a fiver e/w on anything above 4/1, so the win isn't really what it's about.As soon as that horse/jockey loses they get discarded.
The only people who actually care about the horse is the owner and sometimes the trainer.
Take football, F1 or MotoGP. It's about the sportsperson or event. Not about betting.
Horses is all about the win.
Maybe I'm a cynic but it's what I've noticed in the seven years I've been involved in the industry, on both sides.
And there are plenty of people that go to the races and don't bet. Generally older people, there for the love of the sport. It's the same with greyhounds actually.
I think maybe your love of the sport has blinkered your views.
Maybe they just like dressing up, going out, having a flutter on the horses and having a good time with their mates?
Radical I know.
Obviously if they were aware that some po faced bloke on a car forum disapproved they'd modify their behaviour accordingly. Or not give a stuff. One of the two.
Radical I know.
Obviously if they were aware that some po faced bloke on a car forum disapproved they'd modify their behaviour accordingly. Or not give a stuff. One of the two.
Ari said:
Maybe they just like dressing up, going out, having a flutter on the horses and having a good time with their mates?
Radical I know.
Obviously if they were aware that some po faced bloke on a car forum disapproved they'd modify their behaviour accordingly. Or not give a stuff. One of the two.
haha brilliant Radical I know.
Obviously if they were aware that some po faced bloke on a car forum disapproved they'd modify their behaviour accordingly. Or not give a stuff. One of the two.
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