Locked Out of Car

Locked Out of Car

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Nobby Diesel

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2,055 posts

252 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Any ideas on how to get over this?
Car has been left for a week, so the immobiliser has gone into low energy mode.
The trouble is, unlocking the car manually with the key isn't working, so can't open any either door.
Alarm is still set and the red indicator light is functioning.

How do it get it unlocked?

Car is a 2001 996 turbo.

Thanks in advance folks.

pete a

3,799 posts

185 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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The door should open with the key, however if you strip the wheel arch liner off from the near side front wheel there is a wire you can pull which will release the front boot, from there you can access the battery and recharge it.
If you can get in the car there is also a jump start point on the fuse board.
Try the other key fob and key 1st?

marky911

4,417 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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As above, the door lock should physically turn and unlock with the key to enable you to open the door, whether your remote is flat or not. I don't know how it wouldn't.

Usually when mine stands and goes into power saving mode I have to unlock the door with the key (turn key so top of key moves to right) but then I don't open it, I press the remote and it disarms everything, then I open door. Turning the key wakes up the remote part.

Looks like Pete's option of the emergency cable is your best bet, but get those locks looked at as that is very strange. Good luck.

supersport

4,064 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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pete a said:
The door should open with the key, however if you strip the wheel arch liner off from the near side front wheel there is a wire you can pull which will release the front boot, from there you can access the battery and recharge it.
If you can get in the car there is also a jump start point on the fuse board.
Try the other key fob and key 1st?
I thought the fuse board thing was to supply power and absolutely NOT to jump start.

Polome

541 posts

126 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Supersport your spot on . The emergency power connection lead on fuse board is to feed enough power ( via a slave battery) to operate the electric bonnet/ boot locks . This will then gives access to battery / engine bay to allow correct jump start connections . Regards

Isysman

319 posts

137 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Won't forcing the alarm to activate cause the car to come out of sleep mode? Don't understand why the key cannot open it manually, that's what I do with mine.

Nobby Diesel

Original Poster:

2,055 posts

252 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Thanks folks.
I am leaning toward thinking that there is a problem in the lock mechanism and it's mechanical connection to the handle on the outside of the car.
Activating the alarm is a good idea I think. What's the best way to do that? Rock the car or similar?

Trev450

6,325 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Try rocking it and if that fails jack up one side.

Nobby Diesel

Original Poster:

2,055 posts

252 months

Saturday 21st June 2014
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Hmm, puzzling.
Managed to set the alarm off, but the car didn't respond to the fob.
Still can't get in.

Isysman

319 posts

137 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Sounds obvious but are you sure there is power to the fob? Change the battery.

Isysman

319 posts

137 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Sounds obvious but are you sure there is power to the fob? Change the battery.

Nobby Diesel

Original Poster:

2,055 posts

252 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Fob has a new battery.
I can only think that the handle on the outside of the door is not connected (inside the door) to the lock mechanism.
Going to have to smash a window at this rate.

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Have you tried fitting the fob battery back to front (briefly)?

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Sounds to me like the fob has failed. I tried a new battery (which didn't work) and ended up having to get a new fob and having it reprogrammed.

Do you have a 2nd fob to try?


Nobby Diesel

Original Poster:

2,055 posts

252 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Yep - have tried the second fob, with a new battery in it.
Have tried switching the battery around.
Neither any good.


ayem

1 posts

142 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Hi,

Sad as it sounds I know your pain - got myself in the same situation. The previous owner disengaged the lock mechanism in the door and I found myself in the same situation as you're in now. Disconnecting battery, triggering the alarm or rocking of the car wont help. Also, when the car is clocked the internal door handles are disengaged (we tried to pull them through the seals.

Long story short... Order a new driver side glass and use a hammer frown

I called multiple "specialists" asking to open the car and no one was able to help me.

Sorry mate.

[edit]Mine is 2004 996 C2[/edit]

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Peter.

Nobby Diesel

Original Poster:

2,055 posts

252 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Hi Peter,

I was fearing that.

However, I have spoken with the guys at Northway, who spent a good fifteen minutes on the phone with me.
The suggestion, is that I strip out the wheel arch liner, pull the luggage compartment cord, disconnect the negative from the battery and repeatedly flash the battery, until the windows drop. Then, key into the ignition and should be able to clear the immobiliser and open the doors.
The Northway folks, were incredibly helpful, patient and full of free advice.

I have also spoken with an OPC who are very close to Northway (absolutely zero use - "bring it in and we'll take a look at it") You see, there's a bit of a problem with me doing that.

I guess I'll try this route before I go smashing any glass!
I too have hooked the door handles by getting past the window seal, but to no avail.
It's a swine of a situation Peter, but thanks for your reply.

Edited by Nobby Diesel on Monday 23 June 15:17

thegoose

8,075 posts

211 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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If the doors are deadlocked then smashing the glass won't get them open - so it will probably not allow you to open the bonnet either (on early cars the door physically covers the cable pull, on later ones the button's usually electrically disabled by the door being shut), so all it's likely to allow you to do is undo the steering lock and take the handbrake off in order to get it recovered. That, and make a big mess and cost you a window glass plus fitting.

I'd certainly favour getting the bonnet open with the pull cable. Either that, or get underneath and connect a jump lead to the starter motor positive lead - carefully mind! The negative lead can go to anything solid and metal (the engine itself is the obvious one).

I know it sounds obvious, but have you been trying the passenger door too? If the cable's come off the driver's door handle it'll never open, but the passenger one should do.

Nobby Diesel

Original Poster:

2,055 posts

252 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Goose,

thanks for your reply; it makes a lot of sense.
I agree about the deadlocking.

In retrospect, I think that the issue is around the key and its effect, not the handle pull.
So, here's what i think......

When I insert the key into the drivers door lock, and turn in 90 degrees right, it doesn't have the usual effect of opening the doors. Either of them. I think that this is the key point. I don't think the blade of the key is turning the lock module inside the door.

As a result, the car is never going to be woken from its sleep mode.
The only solution I can now see, is to get into the car (however, by breaking a window, popping the bonnet via the cord and flashing the battery) and then removing the door card, with the door still closed.
Sounds like a tall order.

Having done that, I can get the lock module out and turn the key slot with a screwdriver. This should "wake" the car.

I can only imagine that the alarm will be going off, all this time.



Edited by Nobby Diesel on Tuesday 24th June 01:19

pete a

3,799 posts

185 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Stupid question maybe but do you only have 1 key?