100000 mile 997s
Discussion
I've been running my 997 as my DD for 4 years now, and I've just broken the 100,000 mark.
Mine is a 2006 C4S. Main costs have involved the suspension and tyres. I probably spend about £5k per annum on her in servicing.
Of course, the general view on here is that it's a grenade about to go off, and that would make it probably about £10k for one year if I could squeeze her in at Hartech.
It does amaze me how you very rarely see high mileage examples for sale. Although mine's a permanent keeper, I'll be looking for a 964 in a few years to share the garage with her.
There really doesn't seem any point in selling now, as I was looking at new 911s and to replace her would be about £100k, so kind of feel I've had that experience and moved on. Is it really worth £2.50? Probably, but try to replace it for that!
Mine is a 2006 C4S. Main costs have involved the suspension and tyres. I probably spend about £5k per annum on her in servicing.
Of course, the general view on here is that it's a grenade about to go off, and that would make it probably about £10k for one year if I could squeeze her in at Hartech.
It does amaze me how you very rarely see high mileage examples for sale. Although mine's a permanent keeper, I'll be looking for a 964 in a few years to share the garage with her.
There really doesn't seem any point in selling now, as I was looking at new 911s and to replace her would be about £100k, so kind of feel I've had that experience and moved on. Is it really worth £2.50? Probably, but try to replace it for that!
Nice to hear you're enjoying owning your 997 and passed the 100k mark too.
I'm only just about half way to that mark but no sign of grenading also. It'll go to Hartech when or if.
I'm thinking along the same lines as you, I'll be keeping my 911 C2S and adding a 997 turbo in 12 months or so. The C2S was my 1st 911 so will keep it.
I'm only just about half way to that mark but no sign of grenading also. It'll go to Hartech when or if.
I'm thinking along the same lines as you, I'll be keeping my 911 C2S and adding a 997 turbo in 12 months or so. The C2S was my 1st 911 so will keep it.
Edited by Plu Tony M on Sunday 22 June 18:14
My WAG is high mileage examples don't come up for sale for a couple of reasons. The owner has decided to hold onto the car forever. And the owner doesn't want to suffer from the depreciation of selling a high mileage example.
Those are my reasons for keeping my high mileage Boxster. I didn't buy the car just to spend a couple of years driving it only to then sell it or trade it in. And because I drove the much more than the 6000 to 9000 miles/year Porsche figures is "average" the market price was quite low.
My plan is to drive the car until it is no longer feasible to keep it on the road. What that will look like I can't say but I think I'll know it when I see it.
Those are my reasons for keeping my high mileage Boxster. I didn't buy the car just to spend a couple of years driving it only to then sell it or trade it in. And because I drove the much more than the 6000 to 9000 miles/year Porsche figures is "average" the market price was quite low.
My plan is to drive the car until it is no longer feasible to keep it on the road. What that will look like I can't say but I think I'll know it when I see it.
I'm coming around to the same way of thinking. Having planned on replacing in 2 years, I now think it's a keeper.
My 2005 997 C2S is on 74k and there's nothing I'd rather replace if with this side of £50k.
After a bore scope identified 'very slight scoring', with the LTT/3rd rad now in place, my specialist reckons I've got 'at least 10s of thousands' of miles to go before I've got any real problem so I'll just use it as intended and budget on a 'full Hartech' when the need arises.
My 2005 997 C2S is on 74k and there's nothing I'd rather replace if with this side of £50k.
After a bore scope identified 'very slight scoring', with the LTT/3rd rad now in place, my specialist reckons I've got 'at least 10s of thousands' of miles to go before I've got any real problem so I'll just use it as intended and budget on a 'full Hartech' when the need arises.
Bubba Zanetti said:
Any pictures of the interior? I'd be interested to see how the seats, trim etc. are holding up after 100k.
My 110k 1998 car has a slightly worn Tequipment gearlever (I don't think a standard one would have worn as much) and the bonnet and boot levers are scuffed (but were at 80k, I think they were abused slightly earlier in its life), other than that it doesn't differ from one with half the mileage on the clock. If you're sat on a motorway driving 200 miles you're not causing much wear on the trim.I'll have a look through the records to pick out the major costs, and I'll take some snaps on the weekend of the seats.
I don't believe it'd be cheaper to buy a £30k car, I don't see how that avoids the approx £5k per year running costs. When you include at least a minor service at £500, plus about £1500 for tyres, you're assuming nothing else wears out, which unfortunately isn't the case. Even my Passat costs about £1k a year to run.
I could save a bit by not going to the OPC, but I like the coffee
I don't believe it'd be cheaper to buy a £30k car, I don't see how that avoids the approx £5k per year running costs. When you include at least a minor service at £500, plus about £1500 for tyres, you're assuming nothing else wears out, which unfortunately isn't the case. Even my Passat costs about £1k a year to run.
I could save a bit by not going to the OPC, but I like the coffee
A couple of posts above suggest depreciation is only experienced when you sell a car. This is not true - it happens while you own it. It comes in 2 halves: age-related and mileage-related. For every day you own most cars, they go down in value whether you drive them or not. And for every mile you drive, that is more depreciation.
The only thing that happens when you come to sell is the confirmation how much depreciation has accumulated. This fundamental misunderstanding can cost owners a lot of money when they don't sell "because they can't afford to take the hit" and end up retaining a further depreciating asset that is in fact a liability.
The only true way to measure the cost of a car is pence per mile over the time you own it, including all costs. This is when it's abundantly clear that owning a 100k 997 is much cheaper than a new £20k 'normal' car. On a 5-10 year old 997, allow 10% per year and you won't be far wrong.
The only thing that happens when you come to sell is the confirmation how much depreciation has accumulated. This fundamental misunderstanding can cost owners a lot of money when they don't sell "because they can't afford to take the hit" and end up retaining a further depreciating asset that is in fact a liability.
The only true way to measure the cost of a car is pence per mile over the time you own it, including all costs. This is when it's abundantly clear that owning a 100k 997 is much cheaper than a new £20k 'normal' car. On a 5-10 year old 997, allow 10% per year and you won't be far wrong.
Tydeides said:
I'll have a look through the records to pick out the major costs, and I'll take some snaps on the weekend of the seats.
I don't believe it'd be cheaper to buy a £30k car, I don't see how that avoids the approx £5k per year running costs. When you include at least a minor service at £500, plus about £1500 for tyres, you're assuming nothing else wears out, which unfortunately isn't the case. Even my Passat costs about £1k a year to run.
I could save a bit by not going to the OPC, but I like the coffee
How many miles per annum do you do?I don't believe it'd be cheaper to buy a £30k car, I don't see how that avoids the approx £5k per year running costs. When you include at least a minor service at £500, plus about £1500 for tyres, you're assuming nothing else wears out, which unfortunately isn't the case. Even my Passat costs about £1k a year to run.
I could save a bit by not going to the OPC, but I like the coffee
£5k per annum is high! What suspension problems have you had?
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