What's next after the 1996 C36 AMG? UTTER DILEMMA!
What's next after the 1996 C36 AMG? UTTER DILEMMA!
Author
Discussion

adamtompkins

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
Hello All!

So in 2012 I bought a C36. It is silver and it goes like hell. I was 23. My parents thought I was silly and my friends thought I looked like I'd stolen my Dad's car. I didn't care. The sound. The power. The comfort. The badge. I loved it. I still do. Alas it's costing £80 a week in fuel and insurance is £1000. It's unsustainable.

What's next? I've been thinking Brera diesel. They're pretty. And look exciting.

Maybe S2K?

I've considered E46 diesel but they are missing something so important.

Character.

I hope whatever comes next makes me fall in love with it as much as that old tank of a Merc. And doesn't cripple me financially. I hope it stands out - I hope it's cheaper to run - I hope it goes like a scalded rat - and I hope it costs less than £6k

But I don't know what it is?

Fire away!

Mastodon2

14,324 posts

194 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
Canny lurking. You won't fall in love with a diesel, but they'd save you some money.

adamtompkins

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
Expert lurking! Is it really impossible to love any diesel - simple as? There must be exceptions!

forzaminardi

2,298 posts

216 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
S2000 if you can afford the insurance.

Mastodon2

14,324 posts

194 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
You could like a diesel I suppose, it could be cheap to fuel and tax, but what would you love about it? I think to love a car, it really needs to get under your skin, like something special like an AMG would. I can't see a diesel ever having that pull that makes you want to drive it.

Would you ever go for a drive for the sake of it in a derv? Would you ever seek out a good road, to run that clonking smokebox engine up to 4500rpm, winding the window down to hear the clatter and roar, and smell that thick diesel smog?

jc84

129 posts

152 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
Enjoyed reading your post. I had an e36 m3 at about your age. Similar story of financial ruin! I got a Subaru Impreza turbo after that. Highly recommended and possibly a little better on fuel. Handling was a complete revelation after the fairly heavy m3. I remember having reservations over the looks but you forget all about them when you are driving it! Insurance was very reasonable too. Best of luck.

somynameiswhat

277 posts

158 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
adamtompkins said:
I've considered E46 diesel but they are missing something so important.

Character. The fact that they are not petrol.

adamtompkins

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
I do rather agree with the strikethrough above to be honest! Petrol is the giver of soul character excitement etc. Maybe there is a car, much like the original MX5 for example, which really doesn't cost the earth to run, and is fun and does have character. You may say well just go for an original MX5 but I do like a car to feel safe and sturdy - which I don't think one will. I'm not interested in rust, leaks and failing of MOT's. (The Merc did it's fair share of this and it's head-doing) I'm after something more modern I suppose. But I feel that modern-ness and soul-less ness are sort of proportional if you know what I mean. I hope someone can prove me wrong.

iloveboost

1,531 posts

191 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
That's a lot of miles you're doing so I'd get a diesel. I mean you could save a couple of grand a year changing to a 120d or 320d M-sport, etc. As you're used to RWD it's what I think you should go for but it's your money. smile

adamtompkins

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
I have a mate who works as a mech. He always bangs on that the BMW 20d units are literally amazing engines. There's just that BMW stigma isn't there? BMW tt Syndrome. I wouldn't have thought 1 series's attract that stigma though so that is a great shout. +1 that man.

I wonder if there are 123d's in price range?

ajb85

1,124 posts

171 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
You won't find the car. Fact. So instead look at block insurance policies (I have a trade one which makes it a little easier) and get something utterly drab and diesel to do the works commute, and leave your high performance guzzler on the drive at home to enjoy at the weekends. I did similar for a while; ran a knackered but fundamentally bullet-proof pd-engined A4 tdi that had been to the moon and back twice to do all my running around, it never faltered, and drove my V8 Merc sparingly, enjoying every moment!

willmagrath

1,384 posts

175 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
A diesel can be fun, due to the wallop of torque! Just please don't expect a nice revvy power delivery. My fabia vrs just punches you in the nuts at 2000rpm, overtakes everything, then 2000rpm later, gives up tongue out still love it though smile

TREMAiNE

4,164 posts

178 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
S2000 would be a great shout but unfortunately the insurance cost on these is ludicrous!

RX-8?
Hot Hatch?
MK2 MR2 Turbo?

jc84

129 posts

152 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
^^ you make it sound like a diesel supercar! Overtaking everything?!

I know what you mean but did make me laugh!

nct001

733 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
Sorry to sound like a bell end but a c36 is NOT fast and about as initially special as a grope from a mates mum, with time you will learn about cars...


Now try a 55 amg
Any v8 corvette
M5


Rodney the world is your lobster, there is a whole new world out there...

Pentoman

4,835 posts

292 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
quotequote all
A nice dilemma - I like those C36 AMGs, strange and rare as they are. Rectangular tailpipes! I did something similar to you at that age, but with a 190e 2.5-16.

I've driven a huge ton of diesels but few if any have that excitement factor. I replaced my car with a Citroen c5 diesel - although I've a weekend car too.

I've driven a few 320Ds, and would avoid if you are looking for any excitement. The later models, 09 onwards, are getting a bit more interesting performance wise, but it's still no C36. The 330d is much better, and the 204bhp version in the e46 (coupe only) would be worth a look and goes well.

If you want some driving appeal in a diesel then in my experience the more lightweight FWD stuff is more exciting to drive than a 320D. Golf Mk 5, Mk2 A3, Leon, Megane, Fabia, all do decent engines with some interest.

carinaman

25,169 posts

201 months

billzeebub

3,911 posts

228 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
quotequote all
Z4 Six Cylinder, S2000 or 986 Boxster 2.7

greggy50

6,277 posts

220 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
quotequote all
If you get the newer 3.0 E90 325i they are claimed to average 40mpg and are meant to get close to that figure to save you going for a diesel.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

braddo

12,293 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
quotequote all
nct001 said:
Sorry to sound like a bell end but a c36 is NOT fast and about as initially special as a grope from a mates mum, with time you will learn about cars...
At least you're honest about sounding like a bell end. hehe

0-60 in 6 secs is fast. There is a much wider range of cars these days which can accelerate that quickly, but that does not change the fact that it is still fast. I would be interested to know the % of the UK driving population who have a car that does 0-60 in 6 seconds or less.

10%? And of that, how many would actually regularly do full-bore acceleration in the lower couple of gears in order to experience what 0-60 (or 10-70) feels like in 6 seconds?

For the vast majority of the general public, the C36 is a quick car.