My dog got attacked at 4am this morning.
My dog got attacked at 4am this morning.
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akita1

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494 posts

224 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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My boy got attacked this morning as I took him for an early morning walk before work one of my neighbours has a south African Borbeil which he let out into the park off lead but muzzled, as soon has he saw ben he went for him and somehow managed to get free from his muzzle and tore into my dog in the melee I got quite badly bitten on my hand my index finger was broken and it looks like I might lose the top of my finger I have spent the whole day in surgery and am now in excruciating pain thankfully both dogs are ok but I am royally pissed off as my dog is only 13 months old and great with dogs and people and this could have been avoided.

Jasandjules

72,037 posts

253 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Hopefully you will recover (and your dog) soon.

I think it would be appropriate to report this to the police even if it means the dog gets destroyed. If it is that aggressive it should not be off lead (and I appreciate what the breed is for, if I have the correct breed).

ETA - get the home insurance details of the neighbour too, you should be able to claim on it for all your losses. And what did the owner say to you?

Edited by Jasandjules on Tuesday 24th June 19:02

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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I assume you have reported this to the police. This is a very serious incident.

I'm sure Ben will bounce back but may be worth in next few days meeting up with dogs he knows and trusts to rebuild his confidence.

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

KFC

3,687 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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I would be wary of reporting it with no independent witnesses.... the obvious way for him to try and wriggle off the hook is to say your dog attacked his.

Are you willing to gamble your own dogs life on reporting it to do the right thing? Personally, I wouldn't.

Jasandjules

72,037 posts

253 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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KFC said:
I would be wary of reporting it with no independent witnesses.... the obvious way for him to try and wriggle off the hook is to say your dog attacked his.

Are you willing to gamble your own dogs life on reporting it to do the right thing? Personally, I wouldn't.
Check the breed in the OP....

KFC

3,687 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Check the breed in the OP....
I've no idea what a Borbeil is. But from the OP's username I'm assuming he's got an Akita.... they're hardly known for their friendliness are they.

sumo69

2,164 posts

244 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Wikipedia states the dog should not be off lead unless in its own territory.

You should report this - the next time may be more serious!

Hope you feel better soon.

David

Black can man

31,973 posts

192 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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I can never understand why people want to own an aggressive breed of dog,

Jasandjules

72,037 posts

253 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Black can man said:
I can never understand why people want to own an aggressive breed of dog,
It's not an aggressive breed as such but it is a guard dog. In fact, like many similar types of dog this dog should know what is a threat and react accordingly. And if a non-threat is there, to be soft and gentle.

But at the same time all breeds can be aggressive. It is just this breed is big and can do a lot of damage.

Anonamoose

442 posts

159 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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That's a seriously big dog to be letting off the lead muzzled or not, if you feel like you don't want to report to the police then at least make sure you give the owner a good bking for being so stupid.

I have no issue with people owning breeds like this when they are fully aware of the consequences something like this could cause. He needs to realise that the dog he has is potentially a dangerous weapon.

I hope you and your dog recover okay, I really hope this doesn't affect your boys confidence or character.

Jasandjules

72,037 posts

253 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Anonamoose said:
That's a seriously big dog to be letting off the lead muzzled or not,
Don't be silly.

One of my boys is 30" to his shoulders and 9 stone or so (a little over I think and he has some filling out to do). He is however very happy to see both dogs and people because he was (like our others) well socialised.

It is the nature of the dog that counts. The owner in the OP had the dog muzzled already. However, he may well keep it aggressive as a guard to defend his house.



akita1

Original Poster:

494 posts

224 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Hi, KFC yes he is an Akita and he is not aggressive or antisocial in the slightest ( I know what Akitas can be like this is my 3rd one )he is 13 months old and a good friendly dog if a little disobedient the reason I am so angry is that this type of thing happened to my previous boy and it totally changed him from a good well behaved dog to one that would not accept any other dog being near him so I basically became an outcast not being able to walk him with anyone when out and needing eyes in the back of my head (he was never allowed off lead )I have had a chat with the owner and have told him that whilst not wishing to fall out he must keep it on a lead at all times and he must get a better more secure muzzle I also told him that I know for a fact that several owners will not come to the park because of his dog and complaints are not far away so I hope he takes notice as I would be devastated if my dog was taken from me.Bill & Ben

Asterix

24,438 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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What did the neighbour say when you spoke with him about the attack?

CAPP0

20,565 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Jasandjules said:
It's not an aggressive breed as such but it is a guard dog. In fact, like many similar types of dog this dog should know what is a threat and react accordingly. And if a non-threat is there, to be soft and gentle.

But at the same time all breeds can be aggressive. It is just this breed is big and can do a lot of damage.
A mate of mine dogsits a relative's Boerboel pup occasionally. I say pup, but at 8 months or so he was easily in excess of 60kg. Haven't seen the dog for some months now but he was a loveable great lump of puppy blubber last time I did who was boisterous but just in a puppy sort of way. I can't imagine very much coming off well in a hostile encounter with one though, and as said, this is what they were bred for. The name translates as "Farm(er's) Dog" and they were specifically guard dogs for SA farms.

Here's a picture I grabbed from Google but if you go to Google Images and type in the word, they present a few headings at the top including "Attacks" which speaks for itself I guess. They are a huge breed. Also known as a South African Mastiff.



Edited by CAPP0 on Wednesday 25th June 12:33

akita1

Original Poster:

494 posts

224 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Hi Asterix there was not much he could say really I felt like I was telling off a naughty schoolboy in his defence he has spent a fortune on training both residential and one to one but I really don't see this having a good outcome for the dog if this happens again sadly I guess we shall just have to wait and see.Bill & Ben.

Anonamoose

442 posts

159 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Jasandjules said:
Anonamoose said:
That's a seriously big dog to be letting off the lead muzzled or not,
Don't be silly.

One of my boys is 30" to his shoulders and 9 stone or so (a little over I think and he has some filling out to do). He is however very happy to see both dogs and people because he was (like our others) well socialised.

It is the nature of the dog that counts. The owner in the OP had the dog muzzled already. However, he may well keep it aggressive as a guard to defend his house.

Sorry I meant, off the lead without any supervision. It appears from the OP that this guy let his dog go and then disappeared as the OP didn't mention the other owner sustaining any injuries trying to pull the dogs apart.



akita1

Original Poster:

494 posts

224 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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He let his dog out of his back gate into the park as he said he didn't think anyone would be about that time in the mornings ( our properties back onto a small park ).but thinking back he used to do the same with his previous dog a rottie.

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Hope you both make a full recover, sorry to go Daily Mail here but:

The dog needs to be destroyed.

The owner needs to be severely punished.

I know it's a cliche but what if a kid had been walking their dog and ended up with their hand in the mix?

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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So he was so terrible a trainer he needed keep his Rottie in isolation as well them?

No excuse with that breed. They're like bloody Labradors.


Hilts

4,669 posts

306 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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CAPP0 said:
Boerboel
Lenny McLean



Boerboel