RE: Porsche 956 at Spa: Time For Tea?
RE: Porsche 956 at Spa: Time For Tea?
Thursday 26th June 2014

Porsche 956 at Spa: Time For Tea?

Scary circuit, scary car, captivating video



In the comments section for this onboard video there's a little conjecture over the actual driver for this Porsche 956. But regardless of whether it is Stefan Bellof or not, it's 10 minutes of the most absorbing onboard footage you will find.

Every corner, every straight, every lap passes quicker than expected. At the old Bus Stop chicane and La Source the cars seem almost stationary compared with the outrageous velocities they're achieveing at Blanchimont and down Kemmel. Revs flare on downchanges and the whole car's attitude seems angry; it requires real effort to drive very fast. See also from 7:25 for some heroic opposite lock out of Bus Stop.

Um, and that's about it really. A 956, Spa, and one rather talented driver.

Enjoy!

 

[Pic: LAT]

 

 

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Discussion

Housey

Original Poster:

2,079 posts

256 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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It is either Jochen Mass or Jacky Ickx, I suspect Ickx as he wore red gloves and typically started.

I suspect wrong, bit more digging and it seems it's Mass. This of course was the race where Bellof lost his life in the incident with Ickx at Eu Rouge and the in car from that shows him in blue gloves.

Yours,
Sherlock Holmes.

Edited by Housey on Thursday 26th June 16:56

vrooom

3,763 posts

296 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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those 956 look easy to drive on the limit.

BraveSirRobin

846 posts

311 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I agree Housey - the same footage appears (with commentary) on Duke's YouTube archive and the commentator says it's Mass.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I was amazed to find out the other day that the '62s were fitted with a spool diff. Incredible given how far they were pushing the envelope in other areas.


gareth29

41 posts

154 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I don't think he enjoyed the brake test at eau rouge, around 2:55!

urquattro

755 posts

215 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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epic film footage, very very brave and fearless, saw them real time and this footage brings back this pinnacle of this finest racing.
thanks for putting this up.
S.B. (rip) was very brave and too good to have been lost in that accident, remember he had a spell in F.1. - think that is correct but someone will correct or detail his achievements in that spell.

King Steffy

64 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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When men were men !

Kolbenkopp

2,345 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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urquattro said:
S.B. (rip) was very brave and too good to have been lost in that accident, remember he had a spell in F.1. - think that is correct but someone will correct or detail his achievements in that spell.
Epic driver IMVHO, a great loss :-(. We only just got a little peek at what he could have done in F1. E.g. finished 3rd in the 1984 Monaco GP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqdM6RtqZ4Y .

STiG911

1,210 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Yesus! The speed he carries through Eau Rouge is just ridiculous!
Epic, simply epic.

Shuttle Cock

414 posts

237 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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It's a great bit of race footage, the 956 appears to have a better aero advantage, but those Lancia's sure were quick if fragile. Must dig out my copy of 'In car 956' for some more on board footage.

Kolbenkopp

2,345 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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rhinochopig said:
I was amazed to find out the other day that the '62s were fitted with a spool diff.
Did you watch the clip on the 962 with Norbert Singer? He talks a bit about the choice here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=1&a...


bubney72

1,218 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Classy driving.

DeolTheBeast

449 posts

175 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Scarily quick

renorti

727 posts

225 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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great video, really enjoyed watching.
that white Lancia was very quick!

bobberz

1,832 posts

228 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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The sheer speed from about 5:50 to 6:10 is absolute lunacy! These cars have to be the most violent sounding things to turn a wheel at a track. What on earth is that striped (Martini-liveried?) car that rockets away from the Porsche like the 956 was standing still?! Is that the Lancia people are talking about?

Though I've always been partial to the '60s, more and more I've been realising that the Group-C era was the true golden age of endurance racing.

I don't think I'm alone in requesting Please PH more Group-C articles/vids!


designndrive62

801 posts

186 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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It's amazing how much it resembles the Nurburgring compared to now after they have moved all the barriers back.

dinkel

27,778 posts

287 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Anyone going to the Spa Summer Classics this weekend?

coppice

9,714 posts

173 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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bobberz said:
The sheer speed from about 5:50 to 6:10 is absolute lunacy! These cars have to be the most violent sounding things to turn a wheel at a track. What on earth is that striped (Martini-liveried?) car that rockets away from the Porsche like the 956 was standing still?! Is that the Lancia people are talking about?

Though I've always been partial to the '60s, more and more I've been realising that the Group-C era was the true golden age of endurance racing.

I don't think I'm alone in requesting Please PH more Group-C articles/vids!
Lovely cars and seriously quick but the noise is typical underwhelming turbo flat 6 - not a patch on the Ferrari 512S, 312PB and Matras from early 70s nor on the wonderful sounding Mercedes C11 in the 90s

BraveSirRobin

846 posts

311 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Kolbenkopp said:
urquattro said:
S.B. (rip) was very brave and too good to have been lost in that accident, remember he had a spell in F.1. - think that is correct but someone will correct or detail his achievements in that spell.
Epic driver IMVHO, a great loss :-(. We only just got a little peek at what he could have done in F1. E.g. finished 3rd in the 1984 Monaco GP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqdM6RtqZ4Y .
Bellof was catching Prost & Senna in that 1984 race (albeit in a n/a Tyrrell more suited to the conditions). May well have had a shot at being Germany's first F1 World Champion if he hadn't been killed at Spa.
With Audi, Toyota, Porsche & now Nissan sportscar racing is hopefully getting back to its popularity during the Group C years.

Rob974y

36 posts

260 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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IIRC the year Bellof was killed he wasn't actually a Porsche works driver at Spa so that would rule him out of driving the Rothmans 956's, was definitely a big loss to racing!

In reference to Lancia's being so quick, that was all to do with them turning the boost up for qualifying, they where always near the front for the start but never seemed to last very long in the race.