RE: Shed Of The Week: Lexus LS400
RE: Shed Of The Week: Lexus LS400
Friday 27th June 2014

Shed Of The Week: Lexus LS400

Who better to purchase a Shed from than a discerning PHer?



Depreciation is a funny old thing - if you're a Sheddist, anyway. There are laughs a-plenty available with this week's Shed, and they're the good sort too.

Can you spot the duct tape?
Can you spot the duct tape?
Launched 25 years ago, the Lexus LS is still at the top of Lexus GB's New Cars website. OK, it's a 460 now, but in essence (and a lot more ways than that) it's the same car that it was a quarter of a century ago. That's because they were great cars when they came out, and they're still great cars today.

But do you have any idea how much a 2014 LS is? Go on, have a guess.

If you wanted to splash out on the LS600h L, it's a fiver short of One Hundred Thousand Pounds. The base model LS460 starts at a more competitive, though still slightly eye-watering, £71,995.

Now, subtract £71,000 from that. With the tiny pile of cash remaining, not only can you be the owner of this week's fully-MOT'd Shed, you'll have enough left over for a nice meal out with the missus. And neither of you would be embarrassed about rolling up to the snootiest Cafe de Posh in this one either. She's a beauty.

175K young in here!
175K young in here!
A £71,000 saving though. Phew. Shed can't be bothered to work out the exact depreciation percentage that represents, but he knows it's big. Of course, Charltjr's LS (already known to those who frequent the PH's Readers' Cars forum from his 'bargernomics' thread here is not a new car. But put your missus (or anyone) in either his one or a new LS and they'd be hard pushed to notice the difference. Your other half might even prefer the older one to look at. A lot of folk do.

Our Shed Is the facelift model, which means it has an elegant simplicity of line that has somehow progressively eluded the later models, particularly if you're not a fan of the current spindle-grille look. As Mr Garlick will tell you from his own personal experience, an LS can eat your heart out in more ways than one. The biggest potential heartbreaker after the obvious and ongoingly ruinous cost of pouring petrol into it at sub-20mpg rates is the need to keep the suspension sweet. Charltjr assures us the suspension is quiet. He could be as deaf as a post, mind you, but backing you up on this potential purchase is the fact that the last three owners are all PHers. That's got to be equivalent to at least half a stamp in the service book.

Handling Pack lowers LS; can't you tell?
Handling Pack lowers LS; can't you tell?
The other LS bugbear, the damp boot, has been sorted. An LPG conversion would be a smart move but the shutlines still look razor sharp and the Amethyst Pearl bodywork looks super smart. OK, there's a scrape on the backside. Shed can't see it, but then again he hasn't been to Specsavers for a while, and if you've ever seen Mrs Shed you'll understand why. Turns out on further investigation that Charltjr has slapped some gaffer tape on the offending scab, which can be seen on the rear n/s corner. Not too bad a colour match, as it goes, and very much in the spirit of bangershedonomics. Well done that man.

The cambelt is 50K old but another poster on Charltjr's thread says his 12 year-old 95K one looked unworn when it was replaced. As ever with an LS, the only question you have to answer is 'do you feel lucky?' Well, do you? Roll them dice pardner, and pray you don't get snake eyes.

Here's the ad.

Lexus LS400 Mk4 DHP

Huge spec: electric everything, climate control , leather, xenons, sunroof, touchscreen nav.

MoT May 2015 with no advisories. Tax Jan 2015. Service history to 152000 miles, Lexus main dealer to 123000 miles. Air and cabin filters changed in the last month. Recent invoices for brake pads, battery, starter motor solenoid repair and coolant change.Two oil filters and sump plug washers will come with the car.

Lovely smooth drive, no clonks or knocks from the suspension, gearbox changes smoothly and quickly. Four matched Goodyear tyres with plenty of tread left, full sized alloy spare.

Being a Mk4 car this has the upgraded 280bhp engine and five speed gearbox making it more responsive and (slightly!) better on fuel than the Mk3. It is also fitted with the desirable Dynamic Handling Pack (DHP) - 17" wheels and slightly lower suspension.

Genuine reason for sale - a new job means my annual mileage is going from 8k to 20k a year and I can't justify the fuel cost at that sort of mileage. If it wasn't for that the car would be staying as I love it.

Watling removable tow bar with single electrics fitted by previous (PHer) owner who assures me it wasn't used for anything heavier than a bike rack.

The reason the car is so cheap is a scrape to the passenger side rear corner which is parking damage inflicted by the previous owner.

No offers. No, really, no offers. This is my best price, my lowest price, my final price.

For a warts-and-all look at the car go to the PH forums readers cars section -"bargernomics" is my thread about the car.

Please contact me via email if at all possible. I'm almost always at a computer of some sort but often can't answer my phone at work. If you need to call that's fine but please only call between 8am and 8pm. Thanks.

 

   
   
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piecost76

Original Poster:

294 posts

203 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Can't help thinking about Alan Partridge's "Japanese Mercedes"

A-Ha! Back of the Net!

Top Shed!

BHC

17,550 posts

208 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Does an LS460 really start at £71,995?

No wonder nobody buys them! I'm sure they have fewer gadgets as standard, but that's £2000 more than the starting price of a Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid.

And no, I'm not needy enough to type out Mercedes-Benz. My phone predicted it.

Liquid Tuna

1,403 posts

185 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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What's the highest miles anyone's seen on one of these?

the_hood

777 posts

223 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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If I ever need to waft around and I could afford the fuel bills, something like this would be near the top of my list.

StarmistBlue400

3,087 posts

247 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Im really tempted by this but its almost too good to be true. The sellers thread started in May seems like a giant advert in preparation for a SOTW spot.




Dracoro

9,026 posts

274 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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BHC said:
Does an LS460 really start at £71,995?

No wonder nobody buys them! I'm sure they have fewer gadgets as standard, but that's £2000 more than the starting price of a Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid.
I would suspect many people would buy the LS for that money whereas no-one pays starting price for the Merc, they add options etc. Like for like, I am sure the Lexus would be cheaper.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

216 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Great shed let's hope it goes to another PHer.

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

182 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Liquid Tuna said:
What's the highest miles anyone's seen on one of these?
There was one in a magazine article with 550,000, original engine.

Fantastic shed.

BFleming

3,914 posts

172 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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They did one of these on Wheeler Dealers a while back, and despite the brand engineering it still looked like a big Camry to me. Undoubtedly a lot of car for the cash, and bound to be a lot more reliable than a German barge of similar vintage, but not my bag!

wolves_wanderer

12,956 posts

266 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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I would have that in a heartbeat

If I didn't already have 3 cars

BHC

17,550 posts

208 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Dracoro said:
BHC said:
Does an LS460 really start at £71,995?

No wonder nobody buys them! I'm sure they have fewer gadgets as standard, but that's £2000 more than the starting price of a Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid.
I would suspect many people would buy the LS for that money whereas no-one pays starting price for the Merc, they add options etc. Like for like, I am sure the Lexus would be cheaper.
I agree with you, but I do think that with the Mercedes you'll get a better car, unless the Lexus has something special I've missed. I drove an LS430 years ago and my main recollection is how unpleasant it was to be inside. The interior was tacky and ugly and the steering wheel and dials were awful. It was just very Japanese - apart from being quiet, it didn't seem like a premium car.

Carreraman

70 posts

147 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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BHC said:
Dracoro said:
BHC said:
Does an LS460 really start at £71,995?

No wonder nobody buys them! I'm sure they have fewer gadgets as standard, but that's £2000 more than the starting price of a Mercedes-Benz S400 Hybrid.
I would suspect many people would buy the LS for that money whereas no-one pays starting price for the Merc, they add options etc. Like for like, I am sure the Lexus would be cheaper.
I agree with you, but I do think that with the Mercedes you'll get a better car, unless the Lexus has something special I've missed. I drove an LS430 years ago and my main recollection is how unpleasant it was to be inside. The interior was tacky and ugly and the steering wheel and dials were awful. It was just very Japanese - apart from being quiet, it didn't seem like a premium car.
Coming from a Land Cruiser 100, I actually appreciate the interior. Its all very familiar, and knowing these cars you just come to appreciate the bonafide quality - forget the soft touch VAGs, this is the epitome of quality.

Fattyfat

3,310 posts

225 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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I bought a car from the PH'er in question a few years back. Can vouch for him, top bloke.

Carreraman

70 posts

147 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Best shed ever. a MK4 LS400 with the 284 bhp engine and the 5-speed gearbox. 0-62 in 6.8 and a limited top speed of 155. Possibly the best car EVER built, the LS430 which replaced it was not as quiet and not as well put together ( yet still fantastic).

I desperately hanker after one of these, unfortunately here in Norway it would cost 10 times as much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBh9rxPW5vk

Good review!

James1972

98 posts

174 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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The king of sheds. I was in the USA recently and the guy on reception had an old scruffy 300K mile one of these and he could not believe that you could get one for this sort of money. His at 250K had cost him $3000 and he thought it was a good buy...

SimonD

486 posts

310 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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I remember driving a friend's dads 400 back in 1995. Lovely lovely car. Whisper quiet, superbly smooth and so discrete. Loved it. He too replaced it with a 430 which didn't stick around as long. It was this colour too. If I lived closer to the office, I'd snap this up, tidy up the ding and hold onto it forever.

Carreraman

70 posts

147 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Worthy of every service bill it will ever present you ( and it wont be many i can assure you!)

Someone BUY this!

Question: Is the NAV worth getting in the 1998-2001 Mk4`s or are you better off with the non-navi dashboard?

pppppppppppppppp

173 posts

151 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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James1972 said:
The king of sheds. I was in the USA recently and the guy on reception had an old scruffy 300K mile one of these and he could not believe that you could get one for this sort of money. His at 250K had cost him $3000 and he thought it was a good buy...
When I read that I assumed you meant reception at the car hire place. I was going to say I'd expect a better car than that, but actually it would be much better than the Chevrolet Spark I got last time I hired a car in the US.

BHC

17,550 posts

208 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Carreraman said:
Coming from a Land Cruiser 100, I actually appreciate the interior. Its all very familiar, and knowing these cars you just come to appreciate the bonafide quality - forget the soft touch VAGs, this is the epitome of quality.
I don't deny that, at the time I drove it I had a Range Rover 4.6 HSE!
I'm sure that they're built to a high quality, they're just so ugly and somehow stifling inside.

skyrover

12,700 posts

233 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Purchase finger twitching.... dammit frown