EBC Redstuff pads. Whats the verdict on them?
EBC Redstuff pads. Whats the verdict on them?
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Grahamr123

Original Poster:

209 posts

176 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I'm looking to uprate the brakes on my Celica T Sport, the stock brakes are pretty poor.
Whats the general opinion on Redstuff pads?

Axionknight

8,505 posts

164 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I found the ones that I used on a Honda S2000 to be good once they were warm but when cold they were poor - not even as good as the stock ones, but I've heard comments from others who have found them perfectly acceptable.

Sorry, probably not helping. :P

CB2152

1,555 posts

162 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Axionknight said:
I found the ones that I used on a Honda S2000 to be good once they were warm but when cold they were poor - not even as good as the stock ones, but I've heard comments from others who have found them perfectly acceptable.

Sorry, probably not helping. :P
That post is the "automobile stopping" equivalent of "Fairly sunny and mild for most of the day but with heavy showers throughout." hehe

From what I've heard they seem to be pretty good for the average car. Their performance does vary more depending on driving style compared to standard pads though. As AK said, not quite as good when cold due to the heat needed to increase their bite, but once up to a reasonable temperature they seem to perform quite well.

Actually, my post was probably no more helpful...

Wheatley173

101 posts

148 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I was always if the opinion that 'Red Stuff' was always more suited for track use or vehicles like impreza's evo's by default. I had Green Styff on an st170, which I thought were good and seem to be a compromise from the red stuff.

My friend at the time had Red Stuff on his wrx sti and he wasn't that impressed as was only good once warmed up.

I would have thought that your car would be more suited to Green Stuff

V40TC

2,391 posts

213 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I had red stuff on previous jaguar
Perfect pads low dust good stopping cold or wet. I would fit them again to any fast car I get.

GoTea

6,128 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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The redstuff pads on the TVR were good.

I think the previous owner chose them due to reduced fade under hard use.

Alex

9,978 posts

313 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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RedStuff are fast road pads and not recommended for track use. I use YellowStuff on track days and have found them to be excellent on the road too.

ShyTallKnight

2,333 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I had red stuff on the mustang and quite frankly found they were crap.... Changed to yellowstuff and the improvement was remarkable so much better. More brake dust though.

VF7

3,403 posts

244 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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They are great pads, but do require suitable discs as your standard discs would be to soft.
I use them in combination with ebc premium dics on my Lupo GTI.

Grahamr123

Original Poster:

209 posts

176 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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I was going to use them with MTEC Discs.

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

186 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Heard numerous reports of the material separating from the backing material and even seen it happen on a friends car with a near brand new set. Seeing the pad material resting against the bell of the brake disc having 90% fallen out as a whole chunk didn't fill me/him with confidence in them or the brand tbh.

Am sure people have used them without issue but I'd rather not play lottery with brakes.

VF7

3,403 posts

244 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Can't comment on the MTEC discs, but I added a matrix I've found on the internet as to what combinations are regarded best according to someone who knows apparently...


GoTea

6,128 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th June 2014
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Interesting. My TVR had the EBC Turbo grooved discs along with the red stuff pads which show as green (good?) on that table.

Perhaps the disc selection is important then.

16v_paddy

368 posts

221 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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From my experience of red, green and yellowstuff pads I'll never use any of them again.

Reds are utterly useless when cold, yellows were ok and the greens just crumbled & fell apart, I'd fit some normal OE pads from mintex, ferodo or pagid over any EBC product and to anyone wanting to upgrade from OE pads I'd say simply avoid anything made by EBC

ScoobyChris

2,307 posts

231 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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I ran Redstuff pads and EBC grooved discs on my Mondeo (TDCI :$) after getting fade on the standard ones on am airfield day with Hairy Don. I thought they were really good (I've run Mintex and Ferodo equivalents on previous cars and these performed about the same), but a few friends who ran them on their cars experienced the pads crumbling. I didn't see any evidence of that on mine, but traded the car in so didn't check the state of them that thoroughly.

Not sure what version they were though, but this would have been 2006ish so things may have improved since then.

Chris

carpetsoiler

1,960 posts

194 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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They had a crisis of st pads back in the mid-'00s. Since then, things have improved dramatically. It takes a very short time to destroy a good reputation, and ages to rebuild it.

For what it's worth, I run Redstuffs on my 328i. They're exceptional. Happy to stop when cold, and really good for fast road/track work. My best friend runs them on his 328i as well; he likes them a lot. Paired with grooved discs and the 330i braking setup, it stops very very quickly indeed. I will be gladly buying them again. They're very good value for money.

One of my other best friends uses Greenstuffs on his Civic VTi. Again, it stops very well.

As I recall, Greenstuffs are for light/medium weight cars that have up to 200bhp. Redstuff pads are for heavier cars with more than 200bhp. Yellowstuff are track pads. Bluestuff are the intermediate track pads. Orangestuff are the new race ones.

Hope this helps.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

158 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Rubbish for road use.

Fantuzzi

3,297 posts

175 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Grahamr123 said:
I'm looking to uprate the brakes on my Celica T Sport, the stock brakes are pretty poor.
Whats the general opinion on Redstuff pads?
Are the Brake pads Toyota?

Just because most MR2 MK3 owners (that I've read on forums) have preferred the stock owns over yellowstuff, so it might be worth getting genuine Toyota pads if yours aren't.


anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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I'm sure there was a thread on EBC problems once. The owner of the company posted a few comments that did him no favours at all.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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I've personally had a couple of poor experiences of the quality of EBC products, the last one being 6 months or so ago suggesting that tales of "yes we were st but we're OK now" are possibly not true.

You'll always find people moaning about stuff on the internet but I think for something like brake components I'd go to a company that doesn't have a massive question mark about their quality/consistency hanging over them.