H/lamp MOT fail - is working & not alignment!
H/lamp MOT fail - is working & not alignment!
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wheeljack888

Original Poster:

610 posts

284 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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I have a bit of a problem with the nearside lamp. It was failed for "no beam image". The reason there is no image is that there is a 'shroud' or reflector over the bulb, which then reflects back to the main dish. What I don't understand is that there is no shroud on the driver side.

Everything else is fine with the bulb and connection. Does everyone else have this, do I have to argue with the tester?

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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No arguement Im afraid, no beam pattern means no pass.

Sorry

wheeljack888

Original Poster:

610 posts

284 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Sorry should have qualified it has failed nearside only, drivers side is fine. Trouble is that the 'shroud' is part of the headlight assembly. I don't know why its there, it just is. My only theory is that maybe LHD cars have it so you don't blind oncoming traffic. Somehow its on my car but has never failed before.

THe shroud has three legs I can snip off and remove it easily (after taking out the fairing and glass which is a pain!)

>> Edited by wheeljack888 on Wednesday 8th December 21:23

>> Edited by wheeljack888 on Wednesday 8th December 21:25

Corin Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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It makes no difference either side I'm afraid.

wheeljack888

Original Poster:

610 posts

284 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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Ok finally found out what it is. Removed the fairing and glass and found the reflector is very badly corroded and also filthy, probably because it is so open to the elements. Did a bit of search a moment ago apparently there off a scania truck!

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Wednesday 8th December 2004
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wheeljack888

Original Poster:

610 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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Thanks Ribol.

If any one is interested the reflector is a Bosch 1 305 314 930.

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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wheeljack888 said:
Thanks Ribol.

If any one is interested the reflector is a Bosch 1 305 314 930.

I think this may be the lens?

wheeljack888

Original Poster:

610 posts

284 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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No definitely the reflector. I have taken it off and it is on the sticker.

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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wheeljack888 said:
No definitely the reflector. I have taken it off and it is on the sticker.

Ok, handy to know.

I have to say that failing a car on this is a bit picky and not many testers I know would have. Most don't even use the beam tester and if it lights up the right bit of the wall that is generally good enough. Good luck.

chimtvr

1,315 posts

263 months

Thursday 9th December 2004
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to be fair to the tester it should fail. Its a really simple pass fail issue if the pattern isnt there it is a fail.
if you decide to ignore this it carrys a £20,000 fine or 3 years inprisonment put yourself in his position change the £20 reflector so you dont blind other road users and maybe cause a serious accident

Ribol

11,993 posts

287 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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chimtvr said:
to be fair to the tester it should fail.

Very true but using your logic half the MOT testers I know should be banged up

chimtvr

1,315 posts

263 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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Ribol said:

chimtvr said:
to be fair to the tester it should fail.


Very true but using your logic half the MOT testers I know should be banged up


Im not saying they should be banged up but if caught they could be

wheeljack888

Original Poster:

610 posts

284 months

Friday 10th December 2004
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No ones going to be locked up. I`ve got a new reflector and now produces a very fine beam pattern. Perhaps 'argue' was the wrong word, maybe convince the tester that its a TVR trait. I have a white wall at the end of my garage and its never produced a beam pattern like that on the nearside lamp in the 2 years i've had the car. It has always been diffused light. Anyway should be glad thats all its failed on, after 6 months off the road for body-off chassis restoration.