Phase 1 Clio V6
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jamesbilluk

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4,142 posts

212 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Hi all,

I thought I would share some pictures of the new toy! I collected it today, after hearing some of the stories about the handling, it was a careful drive home.

The little car seems to have a lot of character and really feels special to drive with all the various noises that accompany you when in the drivers seat and having the V6 in the same space.

Its completely standard apart from the anthracite alloy wheels, it did have tinted rear lens's which I replaced for the original red units. The front light lens's have gone slightly yellow, this is my next thing to sort some how..

Here are some pictures-







James

maxdb

1,547 posts

186 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Looks great - I bet you're glad you have a big driveway to turn it around in wink

Any plans for future mods?

jamesbilluk

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212 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Many thanks.

Very true that as well! I was caught out by the turning circle twice on the way home....

Not sure with modifications, I may just keep it standard really, I plan to restore the headlights and maybe at a later date get the wheels restored to the original Silver.

James.

Richard-G

1,743 posts

204 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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this is a good way of getting rid of yellow lenses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKAshYmrExc

great car by the way, appreciating by the day!

lewisf182

2,242 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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God dam. What a bloody cool car these are. Enjoy!

TheAngryDog

13,192 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Nice car. What are the spec's on these?

I bet that V6 sounds lovely from all of 2" away hehe

jamesbilluk

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212 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Richard, Many thanks for that! I shall have a go at that later,

TheAngryDog

It does sound good that close, very mechanical sounding which is nice too.

Spec wise, its a 3 litre V6 with 230hp, it may not be the quickest but feels so compared to my daily driver smile also I'm still quite weary about the handling so still taking it easy..

Phase 2's had 255hp

TheAngryDog

13,192 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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jamesbilluk said:
TheAngryDog

It does sound good that close, very mechanical sounding which is nice too.

Spec wise, its a 3 litre V6 with 230hp, it may not be the quickest but feels so compared to my daily driver smile also I'm still quite weary about the handling so still taking it easy..

Phase 2's had 255hp
Modern stuff makes you feel disconnected.

What are the differences between Phase 1 and 2? To me though, I think the Phase 1 would be the more pure car. Much in the same way as a Clio Williams.

zedx19

3,046 posts

169 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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I did a Renault Sport Trackday just as they released the phase 2 V6, I had a mk1 172 at the time. I did a few laps in a V6 and got a instructor to really drive it round, sideways. Driving it myself it was a theatre of noise and fun, didn't feel particularly quick tbh but was so much drama.

Great car, I prefer the looks of the mk1 V6, aren't the side panels prone to becoming unstuck though? Yours looks tidy to be fair and hopefully not suffering any problems.

dom9

8,667 posts

238 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Lovely car, OP!

Certainly one of my all time favourites... I shall have to have one in the next couple of years, I reckon, so I am following this with interest!

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

186 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Have to say I know the face lift models are the one most people pine over but I much prefer the 'sad dog' face of the ph1, that and I imagine the knife edge potential for certain doom driving one to be fun smile

Martin_Hx

4,027 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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These cars are not about the speed.... but about the journey!

Lovely car smile

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

237 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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jamesbilluk said:
also I'm still quite weary about the handling so still taking it easy..
No need to be too wary - they're not as likely to spit you off the road into the scenery as the contemporary road tests may have suggested.

In my limited experience with these, the key is to adopt a similar driving style as you would use in an air-cooled 911. Keep all your inputs smooth, adopt a slow-in-quick-out approach to corners, try to get all your braking done in a straight line and give yourself enough time to get the gear for the corner before you start to turn the wheel.

As you turn the wheel, immediately apply a small amount of throttle to balance the rear and once you're at the apex, start to increase the throttle input as you wind off the steering lock. Lifting the throttle mid-corner or braking mid-corner will unsettle it and the short wheelbase means that the oversteer can develop extremely quickly, but we're talking about on-limit handling here which you shouldn't be getting anywhere near to on the road.

So, be wary by all means, but enjoy it - they have quite high limits and you'll easily be able to enjoy it without feeling like your treading in eggshells.

Lovely car by the way!

jamesbilluk

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Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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TheAngryDog said:
Modern stuff makes you feel disconnected.

What are the differences between Phase 1 and 2? To me though, I think the Phase 1 would be the more pure car. Much in the same way as a Clio Williams.
Very true that, it is refreshing to have the feedback through the wheel

Not completely sure the differences, I think its more finished inside, climate control and rain sensing wipers and more. It's slightly longer too and has harder rear suspension to help the handling.

Completely agree there, I do like it as well being the first generation, it feels quite raw, Before I bought it the Phase II was my original choice, It would be good to have one some day to see the differences.

jamesbilluk

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zedx19 said:
I did a Renault Sport Trackday just as they released the phase 2 V6, I had a mk1 172 at the time. I did a few laps in a V6 and got a instructor to really drive it round, sideways. Driving it myself it was a theatre of noise and fun, didn't feel particularly quick tbh but was so much drama.

Great car, I prefer the looks of the mk1 V6, aren't the side panels prone to becoming unstuck though? Yours looks tidy to be fair and hopefully not suffering any problems.
Many thanks, Its exactly that, every journey has been an event (in a good way) so far, lovely noise of the V6 matched with the gearbox sound and pure induction!

These side panels seem ok so far, I have heard though as well so will keep an eye on them, It does seem a nice little example, quite high milage at 64000 miles but full service history and it had the cam belt changed by the dealer, the interior seems in great condition too.

jamesbilluk

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dom9 said:
Lovely car, OP!

Certainly one of my all time favourites... I shall have to have one in the next couple of years, I reckon, so I am following this with interest!
Many thanks, Its been a favourite of mine as well, Ill keep updated with how its all going smile

jamesbilluk

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Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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GrumpyTwig said:
Have to say I know the face lift models are the one most people pine over but I much prefer the 'sad dog' face of the ph1, that and I imagine the knife edge potential for certain doom driving one to be fun smile
The phase II was the one I was after originally but decided to go for the 1 in the end, I really like the looks too, wasn't sure to begin with but does look different smile

Very true that! every drive does have quite a bit of drama to it! Ive yet to drive it in the wet too.....

jamesbilluk

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Martin_Hx said:
These cars are not about the speed.... but about the journey!

Lovely car smile
Many thanks smile

Its very true that, every journey has been enjoyable so far, looking forward to many more and getting used to the little car!

jamesbilluk

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R_U_LOCAL said:
No need to be too wary - they're not as likely to spit you off the road into the scenery as the contemporary road tests may have suggested.

In my limited experience with these, the key is to adopt a similar driving style as you would use in an air-cooled 911. Keep all your inputs smooth, adopt a slow-in-quick-out approach to corners, try to get all your braking done in a straight line and give yourself enough time to get the gear for the corner before you start to turn the wheel.

As you turn the wheel, immediately apply a small amount of throttle to balance the rear and once you're at the apex, start to increase the throttle input as you wind off the steering lock. Lifting the throttle mid-corner or braking mid-corner will unsettle it and the short wheelbase means that the oversteer can develop extremely quickly, but we're talking about on-limit handling here which you shouldn't be getting anywhere near to on the road.

So, be wary by all means, but enjoy it - they have quite high limits and you'll easily be able to enjoy it without feeling like your treading in eggshells.

Lovely car by the way!
Many thanks! Very informative smile

It has taken a bit of getting used to coming from a front wheel drive van! it has felt quite planted though and not too edgy so far, I shall certainly adopt that more now though, and a smoother driving style with it.



Mastodon2

14,322 posts

194 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Lovely car. Is it still on the original exhaust? Only asking as they were supposed to be prone to rusting, which was a bit of a family characteristic for fast Renaults of the time.