Parking Signage
Discussion
Just had a call from my mother who has picked up a ticket - it's a council ticket, so it needs to be dealt with.
However, she has parked in this spot for "11 years", and was sure it was 30 minutes stay.
Anyway, she got a ticket and a link to the images which show her parked on the end of the bay in front of a no waiting sign.
"Fine", however, at the other end of the bay is another sign which actually says she can park for max 1 hour.
Looking at the picture I would assume the no waiting sign is intended to stipulate the end of the bay and no waiting 'on the road', as opposed to the bay, which should be covered by the max 1 hour parking.
I have read through the TSRGD (or tried anyway), but I can't see any sections relating to the positioning of the signs? (ETA - ok, found it in "PART 2", but still appreciate feedback
)
She is going to appeal, but I'd rather formulate a well-worded appeal letter for her, rather than her shoot off on the "I've done it for years" argument!.
I can see from the photo which she went back and took that there could be confusion as to where the signs belong to.
Any pointers?
My mum was parked where the black merc is, the no waiting sign is on that lamp-post next to it, and the parking max I hour sign is just in front of the silver astravan.
However, she has parked in this spot for "11 years", and was sure it was 30 minutes stay.
Anyway, she got a ticket and a link to the images which show her parked on the end of the bay in front of a no waiting sign.
"Fine", however, at the other end of the bay is another sign which actually says she can park for max 1 hour.
Looking at the picture I would assume the no waiting sign is intended to stipulate the end of the bay and no waiting 'on the road', as opposed to the bay, which should be covered by the max 1 hour parking.
I have read through the TSRGD (or tried anyway), but I can't see any sections relating to the positioning of the signs? (ETA - ok, found it in "PART 2", but still appreciate feedback
)She is going to appeal, but I'd rather formulate a well-worded appeal letter for her, rather than her shoot off on the "I've done it for years" argument!.
I can see from the photo which she went back and took that there could be confusion as to where the signs belong to.
Any pointers?
My mum was parked where the black merc is, the no waiting sign is on that lamp-post next to it, and the parking max I hour sign is just in front of the silver astravan.
Edited by TigerS6 on Thursday 3rd July 10:36
She was parked like the Merc! LOL
the bay is here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.0922,-1.948005,3...
" Reason for Issue: Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours "
the bay is here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.0922,-1.948005,3...
" Reason for Issue: Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours "
PurpleMoonlight said:
Pay up then .....
I'm not paying anything!But I would at least like to give her a fighting chance - hence I'm questioning the placement of the signs - to me, that no waiting sign is in conflict with the parking layby sign - and actually, looking at the streetview picture, is probably pointing to the single yellow line?
I think that's very harsh personally.
But these parking Nazi's are a pain in the neck. My misses got done for overhanging her space - she couldn't park any more into the space as the cretin in front of her was overhanging into her space. That was the last space in the car park and she couldn't wait as had a meeting.
I'd challenge it and suggest that she's parked in the 1 hour bay, but I'd suggest you post the photos the warden took of the vehicle here for us to see.
But these parking Nazi's are a pain in the neck. My misses got done for overhanging her space - she couldn't park any more into the space as the cretin in front of her was overhanging into her space. That was the last space in the car park and she couldn't wait as had a meeting.
I'd challenge it and suggest that she's parked in the 1 hour bay, but I'd suggest you post the photos the warden took of the vehicle here for us to see.
Thanks PurpleMoonlight... but with the utmost respect (not really), I'd like a cross section of views here.
I understand you think she should pay up, great. But I'm looking for other input now thanks.
If you choose to ignore this thread (and it's probably now best you do, since I appear to be 'wasting your time), then thats fine.
Warden photo:
Photo removed due to number plate (even though its been quoted - but yes, it was crap parking
)
There is another of the tax disc, and another of the no waiting sign.
I understand you think she should pay up, great. But I'm looking for other input now thanks.
If you choose to ignore this thread (and it's probably now best you do, since I appear to be 'wasting your time), then thats fine.
Warden photo:
Photo removed due to number plate (even though its been quoted - but yes, it was crap parking
)There is another of the tax disc, and another of the no waiting sign.
Edited by TigerS6 on Thursday 3rd July 11:55
Edited by TigerS6 on Thursday 3rd July 11:56
TigerS6 said:
Thanks PurpleMoonlight... but with the utmost respect (not really), I'd like a cross section of views here.
I understand you think she should pay up, great. But I'm looking for other input now thanks.
If you choose to ignore this thread (and it's probably now best you do, since I appear to be 'wasting your time), then thats fine.
Warden photo:
There is another of the tax disc, and another of the no waiting sign.
Pay up. She's parked on the pavement. There's not even the slightest attempt to park in line with other traffic in the bay. I understand you think she should pay up, great. But I'm looking for other input now thanks.
If you choose to ignore this thread (and it's probably now best you do, since I appear to be 'wasting your time), then thats fine.
Warden photo:
There is another of the tax disc, and another of the no waiting sign.
IMHO - banged to rights.
chris.mapey said:
TigerS6 said:
Thanks PurpleMoonlight... but with the utmost respect (not really), I'd like a cross section of views here.
I understand you think she should pay up, great. But I'm looking for other input now thanks.
If you choose to ignore this thread (and it's probably now best you do, since I appear to be 'wasting your time), then thats fine.
Warden photo:
There is another of the tax disc, and another of the no waiting sign.
Pay up. She's parked on the pavement. There's not even the slightest attempt to park in line with other traffic in the bay. I understand you think she should pay up, great. But I'm looking for other input now thanks.
If you choose to ignore this thread (and it's probably now best you do, since I appear to be 'wasting your time), then thats fine.
Warden photo:
There is another of the tax disc, and another of the no waiting sign.
IMHO - banged to rights.
It looks like she's parked appallingly from the photograph, partially blocking the pavement so I'm struggling to see why you would want to try and get her off on a technicality. However, the parking for 1 hour applies to car being parked within the parking bay which she isn't as she's partially on the pavement. The yellow lines relate to cars parked on the highway (and from a conversation I've had with a parking attendant) when parked on the pavement if you have had to cross the yellow line.
The '1 hour parking' signage is irrelevant if she's not actually in the parking bay!
The '1 hour parking' signage is irrelevant if she's not actually in the parking bay!
The Surveyor said:
so I'm struggling to see why you would want to try and get her off on a technicality.
Because she is my mum and can do without losing money in this way. (and no, I don't need the shouldn't park like that comments - I absolutely agree, but it doesn't mean I can't try and help her.)It really is only the 2 left wheels on the 'pavement' area though, the line of the bay follows the car in, and the front of the car isn't really on the main footpath area.
TigerS6 said:
It really is only the 2 left wheels on the 'pavement' area though, the line of the bay follows the car in, and the front of the car isn't really on the main footpath area.
IMHO - if she had parallel parked in line with the car in front you may have had more success, even if the two near side wheels were on the pavement. With her car aligned like that I can't see a tribunal being kind. Sorry
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff