Buying a 2.0 tfsi with no service history, would you??
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I'd budget for a cambelt change plus water pump, PCV, diverter valve, a good hut-through OBD codes, a thorough examination of suspension and brakes and a full service- which could easily be pushing a grand or even more from a decent specialist. Add that to the price of the car and it would have to be really, really cheap to make sense.
Crafty_ said:
No.
Regardless of if the car has an issue or not, odds on it soon will, piston rings are made of chocolate and wear out. £2k+ from a dealer.
That's the chain-cam TSI, not the belt-cam TFSI, no? Think this issue was primarily in '09 cars?Regardless of if the car has an issue or not, odds on it soon will, piston rings are made of chocolate and wear out. £2k+ from a dealer.
Lots of EA113 Golfs, Leons etc on fairly high mileage without issues.
Edited by ManOpener on Friday 4th July 14:53
The older belt driven ea113 unit is pretty solid, it's the ea888 chain unit which in early examples gives problems.
It all comes down to the price though, if a mk6 gti came up for £5k I'd take it even if the engine was f
ked and no history, as that's less than half you'd pay for a clean one. Extreme example admittedly but you get the point.
It all comes down to the price though, if a mk6 gti came up for £5k I'd take it even if the engine was f
ked and no history, as that's less than half you'd pay for a clean one. Extreme example admittedly but you get the point.Quite, and AFAIK only the early EA888.
Aside from cambelt failure and the vague prospect of dropping a valve due to coke build-up, which seems to be a hugely overblown issue that primarily seems to affect cars state-side, I can't think of a common failure method for the EA113 that could be described as "terminal" for the engine.
I always thought "TFSI" referred only to the 113 and "TSI" to the 888 but it doesn't seem to be quite that clear in reality.
Aside from cambelt failure and the vague prospect of dropping a valve due to coke build-up, which seems to be a hugely overblown issue that primarily seems to affect cars state-side, I can't think of a common failure method for the EA113 that could be described as "terminal" for the engine.
I always thought "TFSI" referred only to the 113 and "TSI" to the 888 but it doesn't seem to be quite that clear in reality.
The TFSI and TSI confusion is across most of the brands for example.
MK2 Leon Cupra Sport, FR, Cupra (Pre-facelift 2005-2009) all have TFSI engines badged as TFSI
MK2 Leon Cupra and Cupra R (Facelift 2009-2012) all have TFSI engines badged as TSI
Audi is now badging its TSI engines as TFSI
MK2 Leon Cupra Sport, FR, Cupra (Pre-facelift 2005-2009) all have TFSI engines badged as TFSI
MK2 Leon Cupra and Cupra R (Facelift 2009-2012) all have TFSI engines badged as TSI
Audi is now badging its TSI engines as TFSI
willmagrath said:
As the title says, would anyone here buy 95,000 mile tfsi with no service history when its VERY cheap and hpi clear??
Given that i have a 6 year old, 30,000 mile one which has been very well looked after that is currently sitting in a Garage awaiting a new turbo, no i would not.Don't forget as well that you can pull up recorded mileages at MOTs from its past using the document reference number from the registration document, to get a bit of additional confidence the mileage is genuine.
As to whether to buy, it clearly needs to be very cheap and to have evidence that it has been maintained, just not noted in a service book. If the oil is ancient and general patina of the car is of a less than cared for state I wouldn't take the risk
As to whether to buy, it clearly needs to be very cheap and to have evidence that it has been maintained, just not noted in a service book. If the oil is ancient and general patina of the car is of a less than cared for state I wouldn't take the risk
willmagrath said:
As the title says, would anyone here buy 95,000 mile tfsi with no service history when its VERY cheap and hpi clear??
It would have to be VERY cheap if it wasn't a quattro. There's plenty of pics on the net of damaged fuel pump followers that could lead to cam/head damage so I'd walk if it was misfiring. I replaced the follower on my car at 80k even though it looked fine.Absolutely not. These aren't the most reliable of engines seem to need almost constant care and attention.
Saying that I bought one with FVWSH and its still cost me loads to put it right.
Chain tensioners, pcv valves, divertor valves, charcoal canisters, fuel filters. All problem areas.
Saying that I bought one with FVWSH and its still cost me loads to put it right.
Chain tensioners, pcv valves, divertor valves, charcoal canisters, fuel filters. All problem areas.
KarlMac said:
Chain tensioners
Yours is an '07 Mk5, no, so belt cam?DV, PCV and charcoal canister are hardly serious issues, never heard of fuel filter problems, cam lobe/follower wear I forgot about- that's a proper issue but only really terminal if you don't notice the misfiring or crap running for ages.
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