Stunt planes that use Jericho trumpets
Stunt planes that use Jericho trumpets
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MarkRSi

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5,782 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Are there any stunt plane displays that use jericho trumpets, like those fitted to Ju87 Junkers in WW2? If not why not? Is it just the drag from the trumpet or something else?

It's a pretty (in)famous noise but AFAIK I've never heard it in person from the various air displays (Leuchars etc.) I've been to.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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a) don't call them "stunt planes". Aerobatic aircraft sounds so much better

b) as far as I know, no aerobatic aircraft carry silly add-ons like that.

If you do hear a whine, it is probably just the wind in the wires.

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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We get enough grief from the neighbours as it is, without making any extra noise.

The wires on my old Pitts did used to start wailing when having it large though.

MarkRSi

Original Poster:

5,782 posts

247 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
a) don't call them "stunt planes". Aerobatic aircraft sounds so much better

b) as far as I know, no aerobatic aircraft carry silly add-ons like that.

If you do hear a whine, it is probably just the wind in the wires.
(c) No need to be such a dick, ta smile

eharding said:
We get enough grief from the neighbours as it is, without making any extra noise.

The wires on my old Pitts did used to start wailing when having it large though.
Sure, I'd imagine if fitted permanently they'd very quickly become a PITA, just for the occasional display. Can't say I've heard such a whine before or not loud enough to notice, certainly on the Pitts that was on display last weekend at Alford.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
MarkRSi said:
Eric Mc said:
a) don't call them "stunt planes". Aerobatic aircraft sounds so much better

b) as far as I know, no aerobatic aircraft carry silly add-ons like that.
(c) No need to be such a dick, ta smile
He cant help it... I think the polite way to phrase it is that he is somewhere 'on the spectrum'.
Aren't we all on PH?

And whatever location I am on the spectrum, I'm very happy there.

If it annoys others, that's their problem, not mine.

And the one part of the "spectrum" I am definitely NOT on is the "personal attack" end.

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Stunt planes?

Why, aren't they the things that you slide the cardboard wings through the balsa fuselage's slots?

Then chuck carelessly into the sky in a vague hope of a loop the loop or two?



I used to buy them two at a time for ninepence each



RicksAlfas

14,494 posts

273 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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They're £1.90 for 12 now.

fourfoldroot

681 posts

184 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Is the high pitched whine not the supercharger?

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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RicksAlfas said:
They're £1.90 for 12 now.
Blimey

I remember them going up from 9d to 1/-

smile

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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fourfoldroot said:
Is the high pitched whine not the supercharger?
Sometimes it can be. There are a number of reasons why a piston engined aeroplane can make a whiney noise -

a supercharger (if it has one - not all do)

wind in the wires (if it is a biplane or wire braced monoplane)

Air entering or blowing across air inlets or openings in the airframe. The Mustang and the Hispano Buchon (Spanish Me109) both emit a whine which seems to be related to air moving across gunports etc.

hman

7,497 posts

223 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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Dont forget that a harvard is an aerobatic plane that makes a loud horn baaaarp noise when the tips of the prop go supersonic

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

186 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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At a guess people don't/didn't feel the desire to relive being bombed/harassed by the Germans so the trend never started or even took off.

In the same way people tend to avoid plastering swastikas on anything as a visual symbol of the Nazi's , the jericho trumpets are still recognisable as an audible symbol of them too.

Just a theory.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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Doesn't stop airworthy warbirds, models and museum exhibits sporting swastikas (rightly - of course).

I would think the number of people attending airshows in the second decade of the 21st Century who remember being dive bombed by Stukas would be pretty small.

In any case, most Stukas were NOT fitted with the little impeller that drove the siren that generated the noise. If you look at photos of operational Stukas you will normally see a little stub fairing which is the point on the wing where the siren impeller was supposed to be located -



Simpo Two

92,671 posts

294 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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GrumpyTwig said:
In the same way people tend to avoid plastering swastikas on anything as a visual symbol of the Nazi's , the jericho trumpets are still recognisable as an audible symbol of them too.
I think swastikas are OK now. Photos of Rolf Harris are the latest social no-no.

Now Rolf Harris dressed up as Hitler - that really would bring society down.

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
fourfoldroot said:
Is the high pitched whine not the supercharger?
Sometimes it can be. There are a number of reasons why a piston engined aeroplane can make a whiney noise -

a supercharger (if it has one - not all do)

wind in the wires (if it is a biplane or wire braced monoplane)

Air entering or blowing across air inlets or openings in the airframe. The Mustang and the Hispano Buchon (Spanish Me109) both emit a whine which seems to be related to air moving across gunports etc.
And of course the "Whistling Death" F4U Corsair ;-)