Advice required tyres purchased online
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Hi,
I have just purchased 2 tyres from tyreleader.co.uk. These had a "C" rating for petrol, wet & noise on the advert, but when they arrived the petrol rating is an "E". It looks like this company is in either Belgium or Germany. I have had several e-mails too and from them, and they are saying it is a printing mistake with the labels that are on the tyres. I have asked them for documentation to be sent to prove this, but they just keep writing e-mails. I explained I wanted to return them, but they have said I would be charged £50 because they say the tyres are correct. No phone number or direct e-mail address. Where can I go with this?
Regards,
N&N
I have just purchased 2 tyres from tyreleader.co.uk. These had a "C" rating for petrol, wet & noise on the advert, but when they arrived the petrol rating is an "E". It looks like this company is in either Belgium or Germany. I have had several e-mails too and from them, and they are saying it is a printing mistake with the labels that are on the tyres. I have asked them for documentation to be sent to prove this, but they just keep writing e-mails. I explained I wanted to return them, but they have said I would be charged £50 because they say the tyres are correct. No phone number or direct e-mail address. Where can I go with this?
Regards,
N&N
[quote=N&N]A friend of mine lost 5mpg after changing his tyres, and when he spoke to the tyre place they explained that the rating on the tyre for fuel made the difference in his case. So I wanted as low a rating on mpg because of the miles I do.
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Snake oil. use the tyres and move on. 5mpg is a LOT.
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Snake oil. use the tyres and move on. 5mpg is a LOT.
[quote=N&N]A friend of mine lost 5mpg after changing his tyres, and when he spoke to the tyre place they explained that the rating on the tyre for fuel made the difference in his case. So I wanted as low a rating on mpg because of the miles I do.
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How much extra were the A rated ones?
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How much extra were the A rated ones?
Either that, or the new tyres had an extra 5mm of tread on them, thus the rolling circumference was greater and the car was covering slightly more miles for fewer revolutions of the wheel. The mileage would have indicated slightly less than it would with the worn-out tyres, thus affecting your mpg calculation. It could certainly account for at least a couple of mpg.
STW2010 said:
Well I live and learn.Wonder if they are as accurate as published mpg figures?
STW2010 said:
Oh good, more CO2 bull***t.Am I the only one a touch concerned that it appears to suggest that less grip is better? When it comes to braking hard, I'd like to have enough grip to stop the car?!!?
[quote=N&N]A friend of mine lost 5mpg after changing his tyres, and when he spoke to the tyre place they explained that the rating on the tyre for fuel made the difference in his case. So I wanted as low a rating on mpg because of the miles I do.
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5 mpg?!
I'm not having that. If that was true then other companies would never sell another tyre.
I've used 10+ different tyre brands over the last few years. Mpg doesn't change by any noticeable amount in my experience.
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5 mpg?!
I'm not having that. If that was true then other companies would never sell another tyre.
I've used 10+ different tyre brands over the last few years. Mpg doesn't change by any noticeable amount in my experience.
Jasandjules said:
STW2010 said:
Oh good, more CO2 bull***t.Am I the only one a touch concerned that it appears to suggest that less grip is better? When it comes to braking hard, I'd like to have enough grip to stop the car?!!?
t. It saves you money on fuel. That discussion can continue elsewhere though.Looking at tyres for my car I can see two different tyres. One has a fuel rating of F, and a wet grip of A. Another, which is £174 (£13 more than the previous) has a fuel rating of C and a wet grip of A. Better fuel efficiency doesn't mean less grip.
Rolling resistance (which dictates the fuel efficiency rating) is different from grip. Have a look at 'elastic hysteresis'. The material has a very big effect- F1 tyres aim at low resistance but high grip.
As far as I'm concerned the only rating that is of any importance is wet grip. The "real world" difference between A & G efficiency is going to be minimal - there are plenty of other factos that will make a difference.
As long as a tyre that I purchase is either A or B rated for wet grip the other ratings are of no consequence. The only scary tyres out there are the cheap ditchfinders - you'll find those ones rated D-G for wet grip.
As long as a tyre that I purchase is either A or B rated for wet grip the other ratings are of no consequence. The only scary tyres out there are the cheap ditchfinders - you'll find those ones rated D-G for wet grip.
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