What Are These?

[tleefox]

These have appeared on one of my regular work routes on the M4 by junction 41 @ Port Talbot. There is only one pair on either side of the dual carriageway.



I thought they were average speed ones but they do not appear to be a pair. There are also no white lines on the roads.

[HenryJM]

tleefox said:

I thought they were average speed ones but they do not appear to be a pair. There are also no white lines on the roads.

Average speed cameras don't need white lines. (Not saying that's what these are though...)

[Dave Hedgehog]

HADECs or it could be SPECs lol

http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/a127-specs-speed-cam...



http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 7th July 06:43

[jmorgan]

There used to be a gatso on the west bound. The traffic still behaves as if there is a camera there but not as bad as it was. Once the public get wind of this it will be back to standing traffic at rush hours.

[tleefox]

HADECS would seem most likely as they are not operating as a pair, but the PH article says HADECS are for variable speed limits which this is not.

Could it be SPECS and they just haven't installed the second pair as they have only very recently popped up?

[tleefox]

jmorgan said:

There used to be a gatso on the west bound. The traffic still behaves as if there is a camera there but not as bad as it was. Once the public get wind of this it will be back to standing traffic at rush hours.

Yep-that's the spot. Just found this which says they're doing it as a trial to see if they can close junction 41;

http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Junction-c...

Doesn't mention the type of camera though.

[jmorgan]

Yeah but its been a 50 for as long as I can remember, probably from new due to raised section over houses. Easy target for the camera.

And the gas and air shop down the bay in Cardiff are paranoid about accidents closing the motorway, so a means to an end?

I have read about the closure trial as well. Tricky. Newport has a similar issue, they re engineers the junction there and it made no difference, two lane tunnels though, never easy.

There are loads of people that use this section at Port Talbot to take a short cut, both ways.

[Dairymilk]

SPECS

[Martin_M]

Dairymilk said:

SPECS

What I thought - very similar to what I've seen in Scotland.

[Mk3Spitfire]

It is the average speed cameras. First set have gone up, and the second set will be there imminently. Can't wait.