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hi all ive been out of the tvr world for a while now for lots of reasons but today im going to look a project car. its an early face lift 400.
strangely enough its the exact same colour combo as my previous chim.
anyway my last car was a 450 and tbh although it was a blast it wasn't that fast in the real world.
now iv never really been a big fan of the RV8 its very old outdated design means that you have to spend a fortune to get any really useful power increases.
I no that a few have fitted the ajp or an LS engine but both are very costly.
however there are some cheap cars about with very good engines that would be brilliant in a chim.
for example
XJR V8
E55 AMG
etc
im not saying im going to before I get complaints about originality and not fitting German etc
I guess the question im asking is what has been done?
strangely enough its the exact same colour combo as my previous chim.
anyway my last car was a 450 and tbh although it was a blast it wasn't that fast in the real world.
now iv never really been a big fan of the RV8 its very old outdated design means that you have to spend a fortune to get any really useful power increases.
I no that a few have fitted the ajp or an LS engine but both are very costly.
however there are some cheap cars about with very good engines that would be brilliant in a chim.
for example
XJR V8
E55 AMG
etc
im not saying im going to before I get complaints about originality and not fitting German etc
I guess the question im asking is what has been done?
Jag V6 fits in the S without major issue and these can be supercharged pretty easily. £700 gets a decent and complete S-Type 3.0 manual donor car. That could give 300bhp.
Alternatively, the BMW straight six (inc M3 variants) also fit well.
There's a thread in the Wedge forum about a BMW six being put in a 280 Wedge and a normally aspirated Jag V6 powered S is in final stages of completion as well.
There's also an S that is nearly finished with a twin turbo, Lexus V8 that has been fitted. I think that has around 500bhp. This has been a large engineering task though..
As for other V8s. Well the place to start is dimensions of the engine, then fueling, then exhaust, then transmission. Most things are possible with enough resources (time and or money).
It's a tricky point about engine swaps and originality. Personally, I think those who created, designed and ran TVR would rather seethe cars being used than being discarded. After all, they weren't adverse to fitting different engines to suit their needs.
As and when Samy and Tamy need chassis refurbs, I may consider engine swaps to the BMW or Jag engines. Then again, I'm happy with having no more than 350bhp.
Alternatively, the BMW straight six (inc M3 variants) also fit well.
There's a thread in the Wedge forum about a BMW six being put in a 280 Wedge and a normally aspirated Jag V6 powered S is in final stages of completion as well.
There's also an S that is nearly finished with a twin turbo, Lexus V8 that has been fitted. I think that has around 500bhp. This has been a large engineering task though..
As for other V8s. Well the place to start is dimensions of the engine, then fueling, then exhaust, then transmission. Most things are possible with enough resources (time and or money).
It's a tricky point about engine swaps and originality. Personally, I think those who created, designed and ran TVR would rather seethe cars being used than being discarded. After all, they weren't adverse to fitting different engines to suit their needs.
As and when Samy and Tamy need chassis refurbs, I may consider engine swaps to the BMW or Jag engines. Then again, I'm happy with having no more than 350bhp.
Surely you are much better off getting the rover up to your expected power levels by using one of the established turbo or supercharger packages?
They're not common but I would imagine are a heap less trouble than an engine swap, and likely to hold their value better than a swap when you come to sell it later on ..
They're not common but I would imagine are a heap less trouble than an engine swap, and likely to hold their value better than a swap when you come to sell it later on ..
spitfire4v8 said:
Surely you are much better off getting the rover up to your expected power levels by using one of the established turbo or supercharger packages?
They're not common but I would imagine are a heap less trouble than an engine swap, and likely to hold their value better than a swap when you come to sell it later on ..
This ... kind of. They're not common but I would imagine are a heap less trouble than an engine swap, and likely to hold their value better than a swap when you come to sell it later on ..
If you mod it, then it's not stock, so pop goes the value. Esp with super/turbo charger route as it's so intrusive. But it's relatively common.
Any engine swap will be expensive. The custom exhaust (unless you're handy yourself) will be upwards of 2 grand, and that's without sorting a gearbox/propshaft combo that works.
A 302 ford is a good option as they bolt up to a T5 gearbox so from engine back it can stay the same, but even then there's some nuances about input shaft dia as I recall.
Look here: http://www.realsteel.co.uk/section2a.pdf couple of pages down - gives example of crate engines. Or try the 'bay.
Bluebottle said:
Richard 858 said:
German engine in a TVR, sacrilege !!!!!
You already have...where do you think the buick engine originated?BMW blueprints for a light weight marine engine taken from the factory at the end of the war by the US
RoverP6B said:
Sorry for necroposting, but this interested me, as a former RV8 owner who has also had a string of BMWs. Is there any proof of this? I had understood that the Buick had its roots in that firm's straight-eights.
Sorry as well, but this interested me too, Why would you go to all that bother for speed alone? especially in that chassis....Performance is a balance a tight rope. i remember when the Italians wanted a 2.0 litre rocket for tax reasons...but in a v8s platform at the time ...so,....the buick/rv8 was stroked down to 2.0 and a super charger installed in place of the plenum at some cost.! i may add. Two were built for two brothers and on test the two engines sounded like motorbike engine's.... in terms of response i mean such a short stroke and all,...but they never would idle. They still got sent to Italy and i believe they were both wrecked.. if your going that way put a blower on what u got and go for it... what you say?
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this is the infancy period however a long long time ago For Mustang engine ,love it .
It's all documented on piston heads somewhere.
https://youtu.be/Z0g00Wx7mi8
It's all documented on piston heads somewhere.
https://youtu.be/Z0g00Wx7mi8
SILICONEKID 357HP said:
For Mustang engine ,love it .
It's all documented on piston heads somewhere.
https://youtu.be/Z0g00Wx7mi8
Which Mustang engine? The 4.6 is a boat anchor.It's all documented on piston heads somewhere.
https://youtu.be/Z0g00Wx7mi8
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