Is this unreasonable?
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Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Before my blood pressure rises, is this unreasonable?

I placed an order online for a rear DB9 numberplate. It's all smooth sailing, pay by card and then after the payment has gone through I get a message saying they want all the details, V5 , ID etc etc. My issue is that the retention doc isn't back, haven't got the V5 back yet and no idea where I have placed the new keepers slip.

So I just thought it'd be easier to cancel it and just order some show plates for now off ebay or sort it out later when I have all the docs.

Call them up to cancel to be told you're not allowed to cancel due to it being a custom made part.

So let me get this straight, they don't tell you you need all those extra bits and pieces until after you've paid and when you want to cancel you can't....

Scumbag business.

Limpet

6,623 posts

190 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/...

"Your right to cancel an order
The Distance Selling Regulations state that your right to cancel an order starts the moment you place your order and doesn’t end until seven working days from the day after you receive your goods."


mike-r

1,539 posts

220 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Surely they need that info before they print the plate? Sounds they knocked it up then realised they needed the docs. Hopefully it was credit card/paypal and you can get the money back fairly easily.

Amused2death

2,526 posts

225 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Limpet said:
http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/...

"Your right to cancel an order
The Distance Selling Regulations state that your right to cancel an order starts the moment you place your order and doesn’t end until seven working days from the day after you receive your goods."
And further down

The goods you can't return

There are some goods you can't return if you simply change your mind, including:
•CDs, DVDs or software if you've broken the seal on the wrapping
•perishable and other items that deteriorate rapidly such as food and flowers
•tailor-made or personalised goods
•underwear and earrings

Surely this is a personalised item therefore DSR doesn't apply?

Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Yay, my retention certificate came today so any crisis is avoided. I can carry on with the order and get my plate.

However, we are now into principle mode which is dangerous territory for me.

I paid via credit card. Shall I troll just for the lulz or get on with it?

Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Amused2death said:
Limpet said:
http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/regulation/...

"Your right to cancel an order
The Distance Selling Regulations state that your right to cancel an order starts the moment you place your order and doesn’t end until seven working days from the day after you receive your goods."
And further down

The goods you can't return

There are some goods you can't return if you simply change your mind, including:
•CDs, DVDs or software if you've broken the seal on the wrapping
•perishable and other items that deteriorate rapidly such as food and flowers
•tailor-made or personalised goods
•underwear and earrings

Surely this is a personalised item therefore DSR doesn't apply?
Agreed however they haven't even made anything yet until they see my proof docs? They're being scumbags, that's it really..

Snowboy

8,028 posts

180 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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There are two sides to this;

1: I thought it was common knowledge that you need that stuff to get a new number plate. I'm sure it's all explained on their website too.

2: from the OP the narrative implies this all happened in the space of a few hours. If that's correct then it's unlikely they will have produced the part yet.
So they should refund you.

It sounds like a bad customer meeting a bad seller.

Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Hours? Try about 2 minutes!

Yes it is common knowledge and everyone knows this. I just stupidly didn't think of it at the time!

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Surely they only need that info BEFORE they make the plates, and in any event, what's stopping them selling them to you as "show plates"?

I say go for the troll! biggrin

Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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The plates cost me £14 but I think the troll value will be higher.

Do I legally have a foot to stand on?

Small claims court?

Website with some good SEO?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Sump said:
The plates cost me £14 but I think the troll value will be higher.

Do I legally have a foot to stand on?

Small claims court?

Website with some good SEO?
Really?

A wind up surely. Or are you that much of a petty nasty piece of work?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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I think the website the OP's referring to has been mentioned on here before for exactly this same issue.

I don't know what his best route will be now, but for future purchases there's a website based in republic of ireland which isnt' subject to the same rules. So they can make you UK compliant plates withuot docs and send them by post in a couple of days.

mike-r

1,539 posts

220 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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FWIW I've ran 'show plates' for ages and been through plenty of MOTs etc with no trouble at all.

Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Tyre Smoke said:
Sump said:
The plates cost me £14 but I think the troll value will be higher.

Do I legally have a foot to stand on?

Small claims court?

Website with some good SEO?
Really?

A wind up surely. Or are you that much of a petty nasty piece of work?
All they need to do is issue a refund which is a completely reasonable on the basis that they haven't even made my plate yet and I requested it 2 minutes after ordering..

ging84

9,548 posts

175 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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were the original ones custom fit for you car?
otherwise worst i've got a db9 thread ever

Sump

Original Poster:

5,511 posts

196 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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The Db9 takes a custom shaped plate on the back...

Mandat

4,626 posts

267 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Surely the answer would have been to proceed with the order and send them the documetns that they require once you have received them yourself from DVLA. The delivery of the plate would have been delayed but that wouldn't have been a problem since you are looking for a second temporary plate anyway in the meantime.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Snowboy said:
There are two sides to this;

1: I thought it was common knowledge that you need that stuff to get a new number plate. I'm sure it's all explained on their website too.
Quite. It's only been a legal requirement since 2001.

RyanTank

2,850 posts

183 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Sump said:
The Db9 takes a custom shaped plate on the back...
Isn't it the same shape as the Ford Focus one? tongue out


Also - Worst. "I've got an Aston Martin DB9 thread". EVARR!!
best read it in Simpsons Comic Book Guy Voice

Wacky Racer

41,314 posts

276 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Seriously, just get on with your life.

People have been killed in car crashes today.