Top 5 Group B cars?
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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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The all time top 5 Group B list of cars - in rank order

Pug T16
Lancia 037
Lancia S4
Audi Quattro S1
R5 Maxi



Tickle

6,456 posts

233 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Even though it didnt win much, the RS200. May have gone on to win if it had the chance to develop. It didnt get the chance because of what inevitably happened.

richs2891

906 posts

282 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Lancia Delta S4
Ford RS200
Audi Quattro swb
Pug T16
Metro 6R4

Tickle

6,456 posts

233 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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In rank order IMHO (not on competition success)

RS200
T-16
S4
Quattro S1
6R4

I would imagine many Group B fans will of watched this, if not worth an hour or so of your time:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xty1w4_bbc-madnes...


sjabrown

2,086 posts

189 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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If I had to have 5 then in order I'd have
205 T16
Quattro SWB
Delta S4
6R4
Lancia 037

interloper

2,747 posts

284 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Favourite over looked grp B cars....

Skoda 130LR
Citroen Visa Mille Piste
Mazda RX7 4X4 (Cant rememberits full title its so over looked)

m444ttb

3,183 posts

258 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Porsche 959
Ferrari 288GTo
Audi Quattro SWB
205 Turbo16
Ford RS200

Gettoff

1,434 posts

236 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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m444ttb said:
Porsche 959
Ferrari 288GTo
Audi Quattro SWB
205 Turbo16
Ford RS200
Swap the Ford for an 037 and your on to a winner.

Leins

10,435 posts

177 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Gettoff said:
m444ttb said:
Porsche 959
Ferrari 288GTo
Audi Quattro SWB
205 Turbo16
Ford RS200
Swap the Ford for an 037 and your on to a winner.
Agreed. Although I might have to try and find a place for one of these too:


Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

197 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Never really proven.

Nath88n

255 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Eighteeteewhy said:
Never really proven.
but quite a flawed concept. A four door hatchback with large overhangs when even Audi were considering a two door sports car in the same vein as the RS200 to replace the ur quattro.

I love it all the same, especially the huge cutouts for the rear door handles.

Baryonyx

18,281 posts

188 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Yes, we can only dream about how incredible the next generation of cars could have been. The Audi Group S car is a tantalising glimpse of what may have lay in store.

DeolTheBeast

449 posts

175 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Yes, we can only dream about how incredible the next generation of cars could have been. The Audi Group S car is a tantalising glimpse of what may have lay in store.
Just went and had a little read up on this - never heard of that car before. Amazing little thing.

Nath88n

255 posts

194 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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GravelBen

16,495 posts

259 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Baryonyx said:
Yes, we can only dream about how incredible the next generation of cars could have been. The Audi Group S car is a tantalising glimpse of what may have lay in store.
Group S regs were going to be very similar (engine location aside) to what we got with modern WRC cars to be honest - limited to about 300bhp, spaceframe under a production-look shell. Most likely would have been less dramatic than Group B.

fttm

4,562 posts

164 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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GravelBen said:
Group S regs were going to be very similar (engine location aside) to what we got with modern WRC cars to be honest - limited to about 300bhp, spaceframe under a production-look shell. Most likely would have been less dramatic than Group B.
Group S would've been too extreme . Audi Sport S1
Peugeot 205 T16 EVO
Lancia Delta S4
Ford RS 200
MG Metro 6R4(purely for sound)














HaloGen8

1,413 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Ok not as raw as some of the others but fond memories for me....




aeropilot

40,633 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Pug 205T16E2 was easily the best all round Group B rally car, which is the verdict from those drivers of that era that have driven them.

Technically the Delta S4 was possibly the best, but only one driver ever tamed it and that was Toivonen, and it good points and very bad points claimed his life.

I suspect, had Group B not been banned the Evo version of the RS200 might well have been up there with the Pug and Delta given how it feared in the post-ban rallycross era. The Delta in comparison was terrible in that discipline, with Alamaki dumping his works Delta for a works 205T16E2 the following year and then wiping the floor with everyone.

The Audi's were madly insane, but were struggling with the others greater developemnt by the time of the ban.

The Metro was a great car in many ways, and was oh so close and was another 'what could have been' had Grp B continued into 1987. It was always going to struggle in the power stakes though with it's n/a engine, despite being one hell of an engine.

My list then,

1. 205T16E2
2. Ford RS200
3. Metro 6R4
4. Lancia 037
5. Audi Quattro S1
6. Lancia Delta S4
7. Nissan 240RS
8. Citroen BX 4TC