997t gen1 facelift to Gen2??
997t gen1 facelift to Gen2??
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Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Hi all
I am considering facelifting my 997t gen1 to gen2
What are your thoughts and how complicated is it? Spoke with my local OPC and was advised when it comes to renewing warranty it would not pass 111 point check even though all parts used would be genuine Porsche parts.
Anyone done this,would welcome any input
Thank you



Edited by Rocco1 on Friday 18th July 17:25

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Don't bother, buy a gen 2 they are really starting to drop now.
So would be cheaper to buy the newer better car.

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Don't bother, buy a gen 2 they are really starting to drop now.
So would be cheaper to buy the newer better car.

berty37

623 posts

168 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Hi mate
Although I didn't do this myself I know someone who had it done. I would say personally your best bet is Design 911 in Essex they have pictures of the before and after and with what is involved...it's quite a bit more than I originally thought. I think Porsche shop also do this too. The other way is to maybe get all the parts yourself on eBay etc as even stuff like gen2 lights new cost is a lot and they come up on there frequently for a lot less...

Carl_Docklands

15,831 posts

291 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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mrdemon said:
Don't bother, buy a gen 2 they are really starting to drop now.
So would be cheaper to buy the newer better car.
yeah, I have recently lost £6 in depreciation on mine on top of the fiver I lost down the back of my child seat last year. And thats in one and half years and 20k miles of ownership, I dread to think what the next few years will bring.

Rocco1

Original Poster:

3,091 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Thanks guys
Have all the parts ready from a 2012
Was told something about the wiring of lights (different and requires a loom)
anyone care to elaborate

berty37

623 posts

168 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Rocco1 said:
Thanks guys
Have all the parts ready from a 2012
Was told something about the wiring of lights (different and requires a loom)
anyone care to elaborate
I think it's because the gen2 has LED's and so there are resistors etc that have to be used to stop warning lights appearing on the dash... There are aftermarket LED's that are 'plug and play' but as you are doing it properly with all the correct bits the wiring does have to be altered a bit.

Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Thank you
Can anyone recommend where to buy a loom or the next best option

Ozzy997

124 posts

221 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/2...

Have a read of this...... I considered this on my 997tt but never got round to it.

mollytherocker

14,460 posts

238 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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My view for what its worth is that its better being original. Whats wrong with the gen 1?

I mean, you dont want people thinking you have a rubbish DFI engine in it do you? biggrin

Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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mollytherocker said:
My view for what its worth is that its better being original. Whats wrong with the gen 1?

I mean, you dont want people thinking you have a rubbish DFI engine in it do you? biggrin
Hi Peter! hope all is well not seen you around for a while
Thanks for the advice
As for the DFI engine lets not open a can of worms lol
Hope to see you soon and hows the new born

mollytherocker

14,460 posts

238 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Rocco1 said:
Hi Peter! hope all is well not seen you around for a while
Thanks for the advice
As for the DFI engine lets not open a can of worms lol
Hope to see you soon and hows the new born
Shes great thanks, shes 2 next week! Are you going to the tipec karting in September?

Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Ozzy997 said:
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/2...

Have a read of this...... I considered this on my 997tt but never got round to it.
Thanks Asman appreciate the link (same colour as mine cobalt blue)



Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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mollytherocker said:
Shes great thanks, shes 2 next week! Are you going to the tipec karting in September?
Do you have more info on the karting
Thanks

davidlaurel

50 posts

184 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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Hi Rocco,
I face lifted my 997.1 C4s and found it quiet easy. You say you have all the parts so it should be a doddle.
I only face lifted the rear of my car so I changed the bumper, the rear lights, a small support panel where the engine lid shuts and the rear light control unit which sits under the passenger seat.

No wiring loom change was necessary but the new rear end control unit does need to be coded to tell it you have led lights.
The control unit I bought from Porsche and was about £ 170 the coding cost me £20. The other parts were secondhand.

Let me know if you need any more info or pics.

In my opinion it was well worth it for the updated look, ok it doesn't have the dfi engine or Pdk gearbox or the just ok PCM 3,
but it didn't cost 20k extra to get all these!

Dave

Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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davidlaurel said:
Hi Rocco,
I face lifted my 997.1 C4s and found it quiet easy. You say you have all the parts so it should be a doddle.
I only face lifted the rear of my car so I changed the bumper, the rear lights, a small support panel where the engine lid shuts and the rear light control unit which sits under the passenger seat.

No wiring loom change was necessary but the new rear end control unit does need to be coded to tell it you have led lights.
The control unit I bought from Porsche and was about £ 170 the coding cost me £20. The other parts were secondhand.

Let me know if you need any more info or pics.

In my opinion it was well worth it for the updated look, ok it doesn't have the dfi engine or Pdk gearbox or the just ok PCM 3,
but it didn't cost 20k extra to get all these!

Dave
Thank you for your support

Rocco1

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3,091 posts

212 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Can anyone tell me what sort of cost you would expect to pay for such a converstion
Front and rear bumpers inc DRL and exhaust tips
Rear lights
Wheels
Paint/labour


berty37

623 posts

168 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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Hi Rocco
As a guide Design 911 charge around £2.5k just for the rear stuff but as you have all the parts will be a lot cheaper.
Just the paint and a few hours labour. Front one you don't need much just a pack that switches over the indicators to daytime running lights....

Rocco1

Original Poster:

3,091 posts

212 months

Saturday 19th July 2014
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I have not purchased the parts as of yet but are ready avalible
Parts are costing me around £5000 that said i am getting a lot more than the parts required (i have to buy job lot)
Front bumper seems exactly the same as gen 1 to me

FarQue

2,339 posts

227 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Rocco1 said:
I have not purchased the parts as of yet but are ready avalible
Parts are costing me around £5000 that said i am getting a lot more than the parts required (i have to buy job lot)
Front bumper seems exactly the same as gen 1 to me
Tony - personally I'd leave your turbo as is, it's a lovely car and I think the early cars are better looking.

However, I would also suggest that you discuss options with Brian at Jasmine. I'm sure they've done a few conversions now, if you're set on the idea.