Fake Sound Vs Dull Sound?
Fake Sound Vs Dull Sound?
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gsuk1

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121 posts

180 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Here's one for ya'

With all the complaining about the Formula 1 noise and the article below about the new diesel Audi RS5 which uses speakers to make a fake engine sound. Along with the BMW M cars that also use the cars stereo system to generate a fake engine noise.

Would you prefer:
A) The entirely real but perhaps less inspiring noise of the latest crop of 21st century, electric hybrid etc. engines.
B) The synthetic fake noise, that no doubt sounds great but comes from the cars speakers rather than the exhaust.


Audi RS5 Diesel:
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Genuine sound please, or so completely fake it's silly (i.e. a jet engine soundtrack for a 2.0tdi). Make it user-configurable so you can upload engine sounds from portable devices or choose from some engine-sound options.

Pebbles167

4,572 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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There is enhanced noise, such as a pipe leading from near the inlet manifold through to the cabin, resonating the noise. This is acceptable, and should be used more commonly. I know the BMW Z4 3.0 used this, as did some of the more modern sporty Peugeots.

Then there is FAKE noise. IE: Audio from BMW M5. For me this is unacceptable, I'd get rid of it and fork out for a noisier intake and exhaust, then remove some sound deadening.

Dave Hedgehog

16,328 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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i would rather have real good sound

Pixelpeep

8,970 posts

171 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Golf R sounds pretty nice inside. I guess it's down to personal taste.

The Vambo

7,714 posts

170 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Pebbles167 said:
Then there is FAKE noise. IE: Audio from BMW M5. For me this is unacceptable, I'd get rid of it and fork out for a noisier intake and exhaust, then remove some sound deadening.
Is engineering fake steering feel back into Electric power steering unacceptable also?

I couldn't tell what was real and what was synthesised in the Clio 200T.

paranoid airbag

2,679 posts

188 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Dull over dishonest.

alock

4,559 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Make the analogy to a woman. Do you really want her to fake it with porn levels of screaming if you know she's faking it? Wouldn't you rather you got her true honest response even if it was less intensive*

(Obviously for me it isn't less intensive but I need to make the point.)

kambites

71,469 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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I'd go for "quiet" over either.

alangla

6,729 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Pebbles167 said:
There is enhanced noise, such as a pipe leading from near the inlet manifold through to the cabin, resonating the noise. This is acceptable, and should be used more commonly. I know the BMW Z4 3.0 used this, as did some of the more modern sporty Peugeots.
Interestingly, my Fiesta sounds different inside vs out because of this. Inside, when pressing on, you get the sound of an engine under load via the sound symposer tube going from the inlet manifold into the cabin, outside, you get a similar noise but with the sound of a turbo spooling & a noisy dump valve on top when you change gear. The dump valve is completely inaudible inside! I didn't even realise it had one till a similar car drove past me.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Engineers have between tweaking intake / exhaust designs and sound deadening materials to produce tunes forever. Dial this up, quieten that down etc.

So long as it's in keeping with the car and just a bit of enhancement (ie no NASCAR v8 noises from a 320d) then I don't think I'm overly fussed really.

But then again, I've never been in a car with fake sound so not using actual insight. I may change my mind! But I can't see me getting too emotionally upset about it like some on here.

otolith

68,809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Matt UK said:
So long as it's in keeping with the car and just a bit of enhancement (ie no NASCAR v8 noises from a 320d) then I don't think I'm overly fussed really.
Why not have NASCAR V8 noises from a 320d? If you're going to have a lie, why not have a big one?

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Here's one for those who get their knickers in a twist: engineering the ECU to drop a dollop of fuel on up shifts to create pops, bangs, crackles and flames on top end sports cars. That to me that is just as 'fake'.

But it's only a bit of theatre trying to mimic the old days of less sophisticated engineering.

To me they are the same thing.

otolith

68,809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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The same thing as having a speaker on the back to play some pops and bangs?

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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otolith said:
Why not have NASCAR V8 noises from a 320d? If you're going to have a lie, why not have a big one?
Hey, each to their own. We will reach a point within a couple of years where your 'audio enhancement' will no doubt have multiple options, just like your phones ringtone!

otolith

68,809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Renault already offer a choice of fake soundtracks in the Clio, I believe.

Matt UK

18,084 posts

229 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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otolith

68,809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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I bought one of those for my sister for a laugh!

Aeroresh

1,429 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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If it genuinely sounds (and feels) good, count me in.....none of this head up your own backside pomp.....