Speeding in Spain can put points on UK License?

[wavering]

There is an article is the Daily Mail today suggesting (in a very irritating and glancing reference) that if you are caught speeding in Spain you could end up with points on your UK License

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2711713/...

Anybody able to shed light on this? Ideally, a lawyer who can give a definitive answer.

Answers along the lines of "I am surprised to hear that and doubt whether it is true" are not helpful ... !

What we need is a definitive answer - please

[surveyor]

I am surprised to hear that and doubt whether it is true. On the points specifically/.

[deltashad]

Many countries entered into an agreement where points carry from country to country to country, the UK opted out of this due to complications involved.

Good for us. I was recently done in Romania, I was given a short ban, but they gave me my licence back and had no effect with the dvla in UK. Relax.

[markiii]

static camera fines are almost transferable points not yet

[HoHoHo]

markiii said:

static camera fines are almost transferable points not yet

I've been flashed throughout Europe and lots within the last year (I drive a huge amount on business) and sometimes for as little as 2 or 3kph over the limit (especially in France)

Currently the fines are not transferrable however there is a proposal that from May 2015 they will be.

[Stuart J]

Its the daily mail. nuff said

[HoHoHo]

Stuart J said:

Its the daily mail. nuff said

Absolutely, why ruin a good story with the truth!

[markiii]

HoHoHo said:

markiii said:

static camera fines are almost transferable points not yet

I've been flashed throughout Europe and lots within the last year (I drive a huge amount on business) and sometimes for as little as 2 or 3kph over the limit (especially in France)

Currently the fines are not transferrable however there is a proposal that from May 2015 they will be.

which would explain why I said "almost"

[Trophybloo]

markiii said:

HoHoHo said:

markiii said:

static camera fines are almost transferable points not yet

I've been flashed throughout Europe and lots within the last year (I drive a huge amount on business) and sometimes for as little as 2 or 3kph over the limit (especially in France)

Currently the fines are not transferrable however there is a proposal that from May 2015 they will be.

which would explain why I said "almost"

....and as I said in another foreign camera thread - It's a proposal by the EC that UK will probabaly continue to refuse during the life of this Government as it would give UKIP HUGE ammunition regarding our position versus Europe

[HoHoHo]

markiii said:

HoHoHo said:

markiii said:

static camera fines are almost transferable points not yet

I've been flashed throughout Europe and lots within the last year (I drive a huge amount on business) and sometimes for as little as 2 or 3kph over the limit (especially in France)

Currently the fines are not transferrable however there is a proposal that from May 2015 they will be.

which would explain why I said "almost"

Sorry, sent a reminder to myself to read posts in full in future

[agtlaw]

wavering said:

There is an article is the Daily Mail today suggesting (in a very irritating and glancing reference) that if you are caught speeding in Spain you could end up with points on your UK License

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2711713/...

Anybody able to shed light on this? Ideally, a lawyer who can give a definitive answer.

Answers along the lines of "I am surprised to hear that and doubt whether it is true" are not helpful ... !

What we need is a definitive answer - please

The article doesn't say points will be put on a UK licence.

There is no provision for a UK driver to have penalty points added to his UK driving licence for any offence committed overseas.

The position in Spain is the more or the less same as here. If you're a foreign driver caught speeding in the UK then penalty points can be applied to a shadow / ghost driving licence record that DVLA will create for this purpose. The same considerations apply overseas. For example, if you don't have a local licence then the Spanish licensing authority can create record and add / remove points. Some EU countries use a demerit system. Germany is such that you start with, from memory, 10 points, and you lose points for repeat offences.

If you actually read the article properly then you'll see no reference to points being added to a UK licence but points deducted from a Spanish licence. Nothing to worry about.

[wavering]

agtlaw said:

The article doesn't say points will be put on a UK licence.

If you actually read the article properly then you'll see no reference to points being added to a UK licence but points deducted from a Spanish licence. Nothing to worry about.

Well, the headline says

Holidaymakers in Spain face £325 fine for going just 1km over the speed limit (and will have points taken from their licence)

In the body it says

"In addition to fines, UK motorists have been warned they risk losing points on their licence for any driving offences committed within continental Europe."

Can you please point out the bit that explains that this is some kind of Virtual Spanish Licence?
.

[agtlaw]

If I had points on my licence then I'd welcome them being taken away / lost.

Absolutely no mention of points being added to your UK licence in that article.

[DMT84]

Flashed hundreds of times throughout France/Italy/Spain/Switzerland no issues whatsoever. Things could change...but hopefully not

[HoHoHo]

DMT84 said:

Flashed hundreds of times throughout France/Italy/Spain/Switzerland no issues whatsoever. Things could change...but hopefully not

They will without doubt!

[agtlaw]

DMT84 said:

Flashed hundreds of times throughout France/Italy/Spain/Switzerland no issues whatsoever. Things could change...but hopefully not

Reciprocal fine arrangements are due to change by May 2015 - although whether it actually happens on time or at all is another thing. Info here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[DMT84]

Yeah so they say. I can't see it happening myself

[stemll]

wavering said:

Well, the headline says

Holidaymakers in Spain face £325 fine for going just 1km over the speed limit (and will have points taken from their licence)

In the body it says

"In addition to fines, UK motorists have been warned they risk losing points on their licence for any driving offences committed within continental Europe."

Can you please point out the bit that explains that this is some kind of Virtual Spanish Licence?
.

The bits that say "taken from" and "losing points". That's not how UK licences work so must be some other licence.

[agtlaw]

stemll said:

The bits that say "taken from" and "losing points". That's not how UK licences work so must be some other licence.

No st

[wavering]

stemll said:

The bits that say "taken from" and "losing points". That's not how UK licences work so must be some other licence.

Or just the Daily Mail writer getting confused