Tyre longevity - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 and others
Tyre longevity - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 and others
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E65Ross

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36,729 posts

241 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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On my BMW E65 745i I'm running Falken 452s on the front (245/45R19) and Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 tyres on the back (275/40R19). The Goodyears have covered about 11k miles so far and, perhaps alarmingly, are already down to 4mm of Tread. The fronts have done around 4-5k miles MORE than the Goodyears and have over 5, almost 6mm, of tread left. Now, heavy car, rwd and whilst not THAT powerful it's got over 330hp so I'd expect the rears to wear a bit quicker. My question is are the Goodyears really that soft a compound compared to the Falkens?

I do prefer the Goodyears as they are a bit more grippy but if they're going to cost more AND last approx 10k miles LESS then I have to question whether they're worth it for me.

So when it comes time to replace in the winter what do I get? I could get some Falkens, or Michelin Pilot Supersports, more Goodyears, Pirelli Pzero etc.

I MIGHT be able to get the Supersports a lot cheaper than list price but they're still seriously expensive. I can get most tyres quite cheap as I know someone who is a director of a tyre company but it's still not a cheap thing.

I want something that offers decent grip (I'll be honest, the Falkens are enough but the goodye are better, I've had those all round on my last car) but want something also reasonably durable and not too noisy. Basically, a good all rounder!

Any thoughts? Many thanks!

stupidbutkeen

1,025 posts

184 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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So your complaining that the tyres that handle all the power are worn a lot more than the ones that do nothing a lot less work?
I always expect to have to change the tyres on the wheels that handle the power at least twice as often as the others.
So in your rwd you should have to change the rear tyres more and vice versa on a fwd car.

E65Ross

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36,729 posts

241 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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I knew they'd wear quicker but wasn't sure whether I should expect more miles, they'll barely last 15k miles or so and I don't exactly do drifting or drive it like there's no tomorrow.

stupidbutkeen

1,025 posts

184 months

Saturday 2nd August 2014
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But your in a heavy car with a good amount of power and torque.
15k to me sounds about right.

Good choice of car by the way smile

HertsBiker

6,443 posts

300 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Try using less of the horses, and see how long the tyres last. If you only put 100bhp through them, they'd should last nearly double... But where's the fun in that! I reckon 15k would be exceptionally good. Enjoy it!!

Tonberry

2,295 posts

221 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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The Goodyears lasted about 10k on the back of my E39 doing motorway miles.

If you can't afford that try the Falkens all round.

slowx

325 posts

180 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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What's the treadwear rating on those tyres?

gf15

1,038 posts

295 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Driving 25k miles per anumn, with 80% being motorway. I have tried a wide selection of tyres on my previous BM E38 740 and on my current 6 series.
Bridgestone Run flats: poor grip, hash ride but would last for 25k + miles. Falkens, better on the 740 than on the 650. The grip levels of the Falkens started to tail off dramatically on rear once half worn @ 12k miles. Normally replace tyres when they get to 2.5mm, changed the RFT's and Falkens earlier than that.
Now running Goodyear AS2's and they are the nicest tyres on the 650. I think the rears last 16k miles with fronts lasting about 20k.
Wear was even across the tyres on all except the Bridgestone RFT's which wore the edges and the centre more that the rest of the tyre.
Michelin's were always good, just prefer the Goodyears.

E65Ross

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36,729 posts

241 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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Tonberry said:
The Goodyears lasted about 10k on the back of my E39 doing motorway miles.

If you can't afford that try the Falkens all round.
Interesting. Regards the price, in my tyre size the difference between the falkens and the Goodyears really isn't that much, I was more looking at the durability aspect.

Didn't know they did a tread wear rating??

Tonberry

2,295 posts

221 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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I managed to find the Goodyears for £102 fitted in 235 35 17.

The read wear rating is probably around 280 which isn't great, but they do grip.

Apparently the Michelin Pilot Sport is comparable in performance but lasts twice as long.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

192 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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I took Falken FK453's off my car and replaced with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's. To say they have more grip is an understatement. The Falkens are quite a hard compound and will last noticeably longer, it depends what you want really.

On a slightly separate note how soft are the tyre walls on the Eagle F1's? I'm running at 36psi, as at 30psi with hard cornering it felt that the tyre walls were flexing to a point that they were going to detach from the rim.