Winds vs Deep Sections
Winds vs Deep Sections
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TheLemming

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4,319 posts

294 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Looking at the forecast for ridelondon on Sunday with 45kmph being quoted by BBC weather....

At what weather point do I abandon deep section wheels as a bad idea? I've a set of Dura Ace 7850 50mm clinchers, fantastic wheels - I also haven't ridden them in those conditions yet.

Is it a bad idea to plan to use them?

Unfortunately my decent set of 30mm section rims are on loan to a friend, which leaves me with Aksiums in need of attention as a backup...

okgo

42,127 posts

227 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Looking at bbc it says the high wind of the day will be 14mph. i.e. nothing.

Yes, ride the deeps. You're not going to get blown into the fields even if it was much stronger than it would seem.

TheLemming

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4,319 posts

294 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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okgo said:
Looking at bbc it says the high wind of the day will be 14mph. i.e. nothing.

Yes, ride the deeps. You're not going to get blown into the fields even if it was much stronger than it would seem.
I swear I saw 45kmph... double checked and its as you say... bit of a non-topic then! I'd delete it if there wasn't already a reply.

Edited by TheLemming on Friday 8th August 15:35

TheLemming

Original Poster:

4,319 posts

294 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Found it, wasn't going totally mad, that's the forecast from AccuWeather...


JEA1K

2,747 posts

252 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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The weather is irrelevant, the main concern is that you will look awesome and 50mm deep section DA's will ensure this. biggrin

My motto is look good, ride fast.cool

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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TheLemming said:
Looking at the forecast for ridelondon on Sunday with 45kmph being quoted by BBC weather....

At what weather point do I abandon deep section wheels as a bad idea? I've a set of Dura Ace 7850 50mm clinchers, fantastic wheels - I also haven't ridden them in those conditions yet.

Is it a bad idea to plan to use them?

Unfortunately my decent set of 30mm section rims are on loan to a friend, which leaves me with Aksiums in need of attention as a backup...
I wouldn't worry, the constant wind and rain and spray and rolling hills will take away any worry about what rims you have on. hehe

Craivold

172 posts

229 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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There definitely will be wind I reckon. Storm coming in from the Atlantic on Sunday, mixed reports as to how much wind and rain it will bring but looks to be around 30mph winds expected here on the South Coast. Probably not as strong as that in London and the Surrey Hills, and I imagine not a lot of that route is really exposed to the wind is it? You'll probably be fine with the aero wheels tbh, just brace yourself a bit on any open cross-wind sections!

ChrisMCoupe

927 posts

241 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I'm riding 60/70mm deep sections on Sunday, the wind forcast has completely changed and it looks breezy at best.

The main worry I have is carbon brake track smile

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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My shall be riding the wave of resentment for you fkers that go it when I didn't!

Enjoy the ride Barstewards biggrin

Disco You

3,748 posts

209 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I don't know if the closed-roads and bunch riding is a better time to try this out than alone and with traffic etc.

Either way, I would consider swapping the front for something shallow.

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

238 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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BBC were predicting Armageddon. Now 10mph SE until 10am and 20mph SW (tailwind).

I really, really don't want a headwind for the first 50 miles.

Dammit

3,816 posts

237 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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I've taken the Stinger 4's off and put the Flo30's on for Sunday.

Alloy brake track, very very stable in sidewinds (although the Stingers are also awesome in gusty conditions), and clinchers as I reckon there will be crap all over the roads.



Edited by Dammit on Friday 8th August 20:05

Disco You

3,748 posts

209 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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Dammit said:
I've taken the Stinger 4's off and put the Flo30's on for Sunday.

Alloy brake track, very very stable in sidewinds (although the Stingers are also awesome in gusty conditions), and clinchers as I reckon there will be crap all over the roads.



Edited by Dammit on Friday 8th August 20:05
Fancy doing a review of your Flo30s? What have you built them up with and how much do they weigh? Also, do you have any access to vernier calipers to measure how big your tyres come up with them?

Dammit

3,816 posts

237 months

Friday 8th August 2014
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They are, in a word, awesome.



Those are 25c Conti GP4000 S-II's.

I'm 77kg, running the tyres at 80psi rear and 75 front they are very comfortable, sing as they roll, and they have the feeling common to all truly aero wheels of making speeds over 20mph feel easier.

Can't recommend them enough to be honest - my girlfriend keeps stealing them to put on her Klein as well.

EDIT: I haven't weighed them as they are training wheels, plus they have a Chorus cassette on their which may be stamped out of U-boat hull-plates, they are as they come from Flo - some form of Taiwanese hub, CX-rays, generic skewers.

However, given that their only direct competitor is the Zipp 202 Firecrest Clincher, they can do no wrong in my book.

The other nice thing is that the brake track is so wide I can swap between them and my HED Stinger 4's by simply swapping the brake pads.

Edited by Dammit on Friday 8th August 20:30

KKQD0298

3,041 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Disco You said:
Dammit said:
I've taken the Stinger 4's off and put the Flo30's on for Sunday.

Alloy brake track, very very stable in sidewinds (although the Stingers are also awesome in gusty conditions), and clinchers as I reckon there will be crap all over the roads.



Edited by Dammit on Friday 8th August 20:05
Fancy doing a review of your Flo30s? What have you built them up with and how much do they weigh? Also, do you have any access to vernier calipers to measure how big your tyres come up with them?
Another Flo user here...


Brilliant bargains.

Disco You

3,748 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Dammit said:
They are, in a word, awesome.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/14425981295_24...

Those are 25c Conti GP4000 S-II's.

I'm 77kg, running the tyres at 80psi rear and 75 front they are very comfortable, sing as they roll, and they have the feeling common to all truly aero wheels of making speeds over 20mph feel easier.

Can't recommend them enough to be honest - my girlfriend keeps stealing them to put on her Klein as well.

EDIT: I haven't weighed them as they are training wheels, plus they have a Chorus cassette on their which may be stamped out of U-boat hull-plates, they are as they come from Flo - some form of Taiwanese hub, CX-rays, generic skewers.

However, given that their only direct competitor is the Zipp 202 Firecrest Clincher, they can do no wrong in my book.

The other nice thing is that the brake track is so wide I can swap between them and my HED Stinger 4's by simply swapping the brake pads.

Edited by Dammit on Friday 8th August 20:30
That's great, thank you very much smile How "tall" do they come up? That is where I had a rub with "25"mm michelin pro4s (really 27-28mm). But that was on a narrow rim, which in theory would make them taller.

What was the ordering process like? How does import duty etc. you work?

Dammit

3,816 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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I got them off a fellow on Timetriallingforum I'm afraid so can't comment on the ordering process.

ChrisMCoupe

927 posts

241 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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I fear I'm about to succumb to the wind predictions and take the deep sections off for tomorrow.

Winter wheels it is frown

Dammit

3,816 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Anyone got access to a really decent weather forecast?

TheLemming

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4,319 posts

294 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Decision made and no chance of being up early enough to change my mind.

Deep sections on, although I did swap out the force / attack tyres for some 25c gp400 2s.

The force attack combo is beautiful in the dry, rides nicely and just feels fast, but they are truly rubbish in the wet!