Fastest point to point car?
Fastest point to point car?
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vinnie83

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3,367 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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OK so here's an interesting one, and no doubt a question likely to split opinion hugely...

What is the fastest point to point, real world driving, quickest car?

I would like to nominate two cars (and admit huge bias):

In all conditions - 911 turbo (I can personally vouch for the 997 turbo and can only imagine the 991 to be better).

In the dry - the Mercedes AMG 55k range of cars - E55 and SL55 being the most least heavy (I can't even say lightest as they're all bloody heavy).

So the 911 turbo - AWD, reasonably nimble and small, and immensely powerful with huge torque low down. This car is IMO tough to beat in real world as the traction, especially in the wet - even after 6 years of ownership - still shocks me every time. It simply grips and grips. There is nothing I can think of that I would imagine being able to drive quicker in on the roads.

The 55k AMG - in the wet, a micra is quicker. In the dry, I can not think of a car I have driven that would be able to keep up - 911 turbo included. The torque at idle is immense - this car allows the driver to take advantage of every opportunity to make safe progress through traffic and is losing to very few supercars even in a straight line.

I have however only driven a limited number of cars, so my view above is from a limited scope of cars so I would be really interested to know what you think would be quicker.



lamboman100

1,445 posts

150 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Radical SR8.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Silly car would have to be the R500 Caterham or whatever the latest spec one is - great handling and lightening acceleration plus narrow so B road pace is more comfortable.



I would imagine the MTM C6 RS6 750bhp model would be hard to beat 5ltr V10 bi turbo


Jag XFR-S is pretty good fun.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Deja Vu?

This was done last month.....

Crippo

1,360 posts

249 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Depends upon the road. Fast open A road? Tight lumpy bumpy B road? Singletrack road with grass growing down the middle? Urban environment with speed humps and other crap to negotiate? How brave or stupid is the driver? The car is probably the least important variable in this equation.

Kawasicki

14,368 posts

264 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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This has been done to death...

All we need are the comments suggesting an Impreza with 280bhp is faster point to point than some hugely grippy/sorted supercar with 930bhp. Then some comment about the Impreza being easier to drive, and that's why it's quicker. Then some comment about crater covered B-roads.

Amirhussain

11,651 posts

192 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Nissan GTR or Mitsubishi Evo?

RegMolehusband

4,113 posts

286 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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In hill climbing and sprinting the quickest cars in the road going classes are Caterham Sevens (and some well prepared Westfields). Though you do need 260bhp+ or a 1600 Busa engine to have a class winner.

The Porsche classes are seconds behind.

So that is the answer.

Mastodon2

14,324 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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The answer to this thread is never going to be a Mercedes.

Kawasicki

14,368 posts

264 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Amirhussain said:
Nissan GTR or Mitsubishi Evo?
Faster than a Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak?

lightthefuse

426 posts

201 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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lamboman100 said:
Radical SR8.
If the point to point is bridge to gantry on the Nordschleife. biggrin

I lost count of the amount of times and hardware they ran rings round...

Mr Daytona

221 posts

145 months

Saturday 9th August 2014
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Peugeot 208 Pikes Peak ? Hardly a real world production car, may as we'll include Mr Hamiltons current F1 steer.

My money would be on the Nissan GTR, quickly followed by a Vauxhall Astra diesel van. In white ofcourse.

Kawasicki

14,368 posts

264 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Mr Daytona said:
Peugeot 208 Pikes Peak ? Hardly a real world production car, may as we'll include Mr Hamiltons current F1 steer.

My money would be on the Nissan GTR, quickly followed by a Vauxhall Astra diesel van. In white ofcourse.
Didn't realise it had to be production car.

How would a Nissan GTR would be quicker than a Veyron?

VinceFox

20,566 posts

201 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Amirhussain said:
Nissan GTR or Mitsubishi Evo?
Spot on.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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vinnie83 said:
In the dry - the Mercedes AMG 55k range of cars - E55 and SL55 being the most least heavy (I can't even say lightest as they're all bloody heavy).
An interesting concept.

An SL55 is not a quick "point to point car" either.

Baryonyx

18,281 posts

188 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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whoami said:
An interesting concept.

An SL55 is not a quick "point to point car" either.
It definitely is, though it's obviously not meant for B road blasting. It'll lose out to a sharper, faster car on those roads - but then you wouldn't want to tour Europe two up with luggage in a highly tuned Catherham either.

eldar

25,274 posts

225 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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As answered every time since 1987, white Astravan.

Poopipe

619 posts

173 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Kawasicki said:
Didn't realise it had to be production car.

How would a Nissan GTR would be quicker than a Veyron?
Potholes and speedbumps

Same reason a classic scoob would be faster than a gtr

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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Baryonyx said:
whoami said:
An interesting concept.

An SL55 is not a quick "point to point car" either.
It definitely is, though it's obviously not meant for B road blasting. It'll lose out to a sharper, faster car on those roads - but then you wouldn't want to tour Europe two up with luggage in a highly tuned Catherham either.
Mine wasn't.

jacksparrow11

177 posts

155 months

Sunday 10th August 2014
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911 turbo can't argue with that , or maybe a supercharged range rover sport , great visibility to see overtaking opportunities , more than enough power for the road , plus the benefit of getting out the other end feeling unaffected .