Very boring diesel car question/opinions
Discussion
Second hand diesel runabouts - think £3k max - 10yo Focus, Golf, 3-Series etc...
Is there a sweet-spot in reliability & performance that one make/model stands out from all the rest? Or are they all much of a muchness at this price-point/age? Ford, VAG, Honda, BMW - the usual suspects.
Is there a sweet-spot in reliability & performance that one make/model stands out from all the rest? Or are they all much of a muchness at this price-point/age? Ford, VAG, Honda, BMW - the usual suspects.
TEKNOPUG said:
Second hand diesel runabouts - think £3k max - 10yo Focus, Golf, 3-Series etc...
Is there a sweet-spot in reliability & performance that one make/model stands out from all the rest? Or are they all much of a muchness at this price-point/age? Ford, VAG, Honda, BMW - the usual suspects.
Golf 1.9TDI or Focus 1.8TDI.Is there a sweet-spot in reliability & performance that one make/model stands out from all the rest? Or are they all much of a muchness at this price-point/age? Ford, VAG, Honda, BMW - the usual suspects.
Avoid at all costs the 1.6 diesel engine fitted to the focus, peugeot, citroen, volvo. Animal of a thing.
I would probably avoid a 3 series diesel too - you're into a real pain point for large bills at that price point.
Are the Renaults worth considering?
Focus was my obvious choice but they are just so drab inside.
I'm aware of the PDi130 - I guess that I would be better looking at a Seat Leon or Skoda, than the equivalent VW/Audi?
Still trying to decide whether a derv is worth it. GF needs a car for a 40 mile commute - half fast A-road, half M-way. Obvious savings to be had over a 1.6/8 petrol but wondering whether a petrol will be more reliable and cheaper to maintain/run? It will also be our only car for a few months, so it has to running everyday (although I guess anything is a punt at this price-point). What sort of mileage can the turbo's on the PDs do? Any regular consumables that let go or are they generally good for big miles?
Focus was my obvious choice but they are just so drab inside.
I'm aware of the PDi130 - I guess that I would be better looking at a Seat Leon or Skoda, than the equivalent VW/Audi?
Still trying to decide whether a derv is worth it. GF needs a car for a 40 mile commute - half fast A-road, half M-way. Obvious savings to be had over a 1.6/8 petrol but wondering whether a petrol will be more reliable and cheaper to maintain/run? It will also be our only car for a few months, so it has to running everyday (although I guess anything is a punt at this price-point). What sort of mileage can the turbo's on the PDs do? Any regular consumables that let go or are they generally good for big miles?
May I ask the OP as to why you are so set on a diesel ?
Can't help thinking that most people get it in there mind they need a diesel for economy, even if there only doing 3-4000 mikes a year on the school run. Suspect unless you're doing 12k+ a year you'd be far better off with the petrol equivalent and less likelihood for big bills if the turbo/DPF goes.
Have a colleague at work who is just about to blow £8000 on a 60 plate Renault Scenic diesel so that his wife can commute 6 miles to and from work in rush hour traffic. It's going to be ruined in 6 months.
Can't help thinking that most people get it in there mind they need a diesel for economy, even if there only doing 3-4000 mikes a year on the school run. Suspect unless you're doing 12k+ a year you'd be far better off with the petrol equivalent and less likelihood for big bills if the turbo/DPF goes.
Have a colleague at work who is just about to blow £8000 on a 60 plate Renault Scenic diesel so that his wife can commute 6 miles to and from work in rush hour traffic. It's going to be ruined in 6 months.
Mr Daytona said:
May I ask the OP as to why you are so set on a diesel ?
Can't help thinking that most people get it in there mind they need a diesel for economy, even if there only doing 3-4000 mikes a year on the school run. Suspect unless you're doing 12k+ a year you'd be far better off with the petrol equivalent and less likelihood for big bills if the turbo/DPF goes.
Have a colleague at work who is just about to blow £8000 on a 60 plate Renault Scenic diesel so that his wife can commute 6 miles to and from work in rush hour traffic. It's going to be ruined in 6 months.
I'm not especially. As I say, it will be doing 200+ miles a week at 90% top gear. It will just be a tool to fulfill a job. A big lump of torque will be sufficient and there are obvious cost savings. The complexity and cost if something goes wrong, is my big concern over just getting a simpler petrol.Can't help thinking that most people get it in there mind they need a diesel for economy, even if there only doing 3-4000 mikes a year on the school run. Suspect unless you're doing 12k+ a year you'd be far better off with the petrol equivalent and less likelihood for big bills if the turbo/DPF goes.
Have a colleague at work who is just about to blow £8000 on a 60 plate Renault Scenic diesel so that his wife can commute 6 miles to and from work in rush hour traffic. It's going to be ruined in 6 months.
What's the things that really cause expensive pain once vehicles get older.
Cam belt failure, so get something with a chain.
Dual mass flywheel. Avoid a diesel.
Diesel particulate filter. Avoid a diesel.
Electronics. Not much you can do about that these days apart from avoiding manufacturers with a bad rep or where there's a difficulty in getting parts.
Cam belt failure, so get something with a chain.
Dual mass flywheel. Avoid a diesel.
Diesel particulate filter. Avoid a diesel.
Electronics. Not much you can do about that these days apart from avoiding manufacturers with a bad rep or where there's a difficulty in getting parts.
VolvoT5 said:
10k a year + personal use, kind of borderline.
At this price point you have to get lucky and hope the turbo/DMF/injectors/etc all hold out, otherwise any fuel savings are obliterated.
These are all my concerns. There do seem to be a lot about with big mileages but then I guess they could all be like Trigger's broom...At this price point you have to get lucky and hope the turbo/DMF/injectors/etc all hold out, otherwise any fuel savings are obliterated.
Matt UK said:
Pick the size/shape body required and then at this age/budget I think it's a case of best condition / history / nearest to where you live and take a punt.
This one stood out but not sure if the low miles is a good thing or bad....http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
TEKNOPUG said:
Matt UK said:
Pick the size/shape body required and then at this age/budget I think it's a case of best condition / history / nearest to where you live and take a punt.
This one stood out but not sure if the low miles is a good thing or bad....http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...
I find the mileage on that one hard to believe,
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