3rd gear from low rpm? (400)
3rd gear from low rpm? (400)
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Malcster

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647 posts

200 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Just wondering how others with a 400 find pulling away from say 1,200 rpm in 3rd?

Is it shunty / lumpy? Or fairly smooth?

I find it pretty shunty up until nearly 2,000rpm, not that I do it often, just trying to work out how smooth the car should be (and using an extreme case to compare).

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

158 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Very smooth.. I can even pull away in 3rd from a standstill with no shunt. Not a thing i do on a regular basis... But it can.

AV8

363 posts

208 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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TVRJAS said:
Very smooth.. I can even pull away in 3rd from a standstill with no shunt. Not a thing i do on a regular basis... But it can.
Mine's the same. No problem,in any gear. Could pull from 1000 in 5th.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

158 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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AV8 said:
TVRJAS said:
Very smooth.. I can even pull away in 3rd from a standstill with no shunt. Not a thing i do on a regular basis... But it can.
Mine's the same. No problem,in any gear. Could pull from 1000 in 5th.
yes Me too

Malcster

Original Poster:

647 posts

200 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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When I say this though, I'm not meaning 1,200 rpm and foot to the floor, if I start at WOT it's not a problem.

If I try this at maybe 1/4 throttle though, I see it starting to shunt, and all smoothness is gone.

If I drop a gear though, I have no problem.

Does that sound normal?
If not, any ideas as to what could be up?

QBee

22,480 posts

173 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Malcster said:
When I say this though, I'm not meaning 1,200 rpm and foot to the floor, if I start at WOT it's not a problem.

If I try this at maybe 1/4 throttle though, I see it starting to shunt, and all smoothness is gone.

If I drop a gear though, I have no problem.

Does that sound normal?
If not, any ideas as to what could be up?
Don't think you have a problem at all.
Better to change down and avoid straining the engine un-neccessarily. Yes, I can and have pulled away in third from a junction by slipping the clutch, but only by mistake! The issue may be that the T5 gear box has a bigger gap between second and third than between other gears, and so it does tend to bog down a bit if you change up too soon, hence you become aware of it.

Incidentally the best advice for fuel economy in any car in town driving is not to try to go everywhere in the highest gear possible, a lower gear is more economical.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

158 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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QBee said:
Incidentally the best advice for fuel economy in any car in town driving is not to try to go everywhere in the highest gear possible, a lower gear is more economical.
Morning QBee,

I've never heard of that before,who's advice is that coming from? Is it something you have read.


QBee

22,480 posts

173 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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TVRJAS said:
QBee said:
Incidentally the best advice for fuel economy in any car in town driving is not to try to go everywhere in the highest gear possible, a lower gear is more economical.
Morning QBee,

I've never heard of that before,who's advice is that coming from? Is it something you have read.

Morning Jason

Yes, I heard it on a speed awareness course and remembered it because it struck me as counter intuitive. However, it must be good advice because my TVR gets far more smiles per gallon wink around town if I go everywhere in second gear and let it over-run regularly.....

Alexc1984

86 posts

179 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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Makes sense to me as driving around town is all about getting the car moving, just starting to build momentum and then braking. High gears are good for maintaining momentum. Try riding a bike round town in a really high gear and your legs will feel it, but riding at 30mph in a high gear you are just keeping the pedals turning, adding what friction and air resistance is taking away.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

158 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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QBee said:
However, it must be good advice because my TVR gets far more smiles per gallon wink around town if I go everywhere in second gear and let it over-run regularly.....
You learn something new everyday.

I'm now in the same club as you Anthony,2nd gear 1st when ever i can through towns as I've gone sleeved(I know yours is not) biggrin

Still doesn't seem to make sense this style of driving compared to 3rd gear without hardly any throttle confused but bigger smiles are achieved in lower gears and don't care if I gain a few or loose a few mpg wavey

PS OP.... Mine runs smooth in low gears however I apply the throttle. I do run mine on Shell V power... some say makes no difference but I'm convinced it just runs better on the good stuff... But each to their own.

Malcster

Original Poster:

647 posts

200 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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is very slight, I'm maybe just being paranoid.

Was thinking of investing in the ACT Elbow to see if it smooths things out a little, but as I say, I'm just being a perfectionist, it's really not a major issue.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

158 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Malcster said:
is very slight, I'm maybe just being paranoid.

Was thinking of investing in the ACT Elbow to see if it smooths things out a little, but as I say, I'm just being a perfectionist, it's really not a major issue.
I do have the ACT Elbow,silicone hoses and induction hose fitted. Whether it makes any difference I could't tell you.

QBee

22,480 posts

173 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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TVRJAS said:
Malcster said:
is very slight, I'm maybe just being paranoid.

Was thinking of investing in the ACT Elbow to see if it smooths things out a little, but as I say, I'm just being a perfectionist, it's really not a major issue.
I do have the ACT Elbow,silicone hoses and induction hose fitted. Whether it makes any difference I could't tell you.
Ditto - I went for ACT smooth hose all the way from K&N air filter to 72mm plenum.....cannot honestly say I could tell the difference.