Steering wheel wobble/vibration.
Steering wheel wobble/vibration.
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KungFuPanda

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4,640 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th August 2014
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I've just picked up a little Alfa 147 as a cheap runaround. The test drive was uneventful and the car drive well with no clunks from the suspension of vagueness. The drive was a mix of 30mph roads, speed bumps and dial carriageway.

On the drive home, I got on the motorway and when I hit 70mph, the steering wheel started to vibrate. When I slowed back down to 65mph ish it stopped. Also, when travelling at a speed in excess of 75ish, the vibrations stopped too. When I braked, the vibrating seemed to stop too.

Before I take it to a garage, what do you guys think it maybe? Worn tie rods? Unbalanced wheels? Brake discs out of true?

TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

157 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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I'd get the wheels balanced first: it's both the most likely and cheapest. Do check that no-one has fitted "universal" spacers, though -- they can make wheels very difficult to balance.

lightthefuse

426 posts

201 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Balancing first. Always balancing.

Or you could strike really unlucky like I did once and have to change the link arms on the front axle (one side or both).

DKS

1,912 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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The vibration stopping when braking suggests wheel bearing to me.

Countdown

49,435 posts

225 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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DKS said:
The vibration stopping when braking suggests wheel bearing to me.
I'm not an expert by any means but with wheel bearing I'd expect noise rather than vibration . Also it would be more constant over a wider speed "range"

The fact that its only apparent between 70-75 suggests wheel out of balance to me.

OldBuoy

29,007 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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My vote would be balance/buckle. Try a front back swap to see if it improves.

OldBuoy

29,007 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Countdown said:
DKS said:
The vibration stopping when braking suggests wheel bearing to me.
I'm not an expert by any means but with wheel bearing I'd expect noise rather than vibration . Also it would be more constant over a wider speed "range"

The fact that its only apparent between 70-75 suggests wheel out of balance to me.
A worn bearing can exaggerate other problems.

DKS

1,912 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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OldBuoy said:
Countdown said:
DKS said:
The vibration stopping when braking suggests wheel bearing to me.
I'm not an expert by any means but with wheel bearing I'd expect noise rather than vibration . Also it would be more constant over a wider speed "range"

The fact that its only apparent between 70-75 suggests wheel out of balance to me.
A worn bearing can exaggerate other problems.
Absolutely you'd expect a groaning or even whining but I was trying to think why it'd stop the vibration by braking. The wife's car, had a wheel off fitting new tyres and the o/s front bearing was totally shot; about 5mm of play, it was outrageous! Yet no noise at all, not in the slightest.

Captainawesome

1,817 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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I agree with the balancing first however….

I've had this problem before and had my wheels balanced by 2 different garages, both of whom told me that they were perfectly balanced. Still had a vibration above 80. Fitted a new set of wheels and the vibration disappeared. I also removed my universal spacers when fitting the new wheels so that may have been the cause.

I would suggest balancing, removal of any spacers and then if it's still there see if you can fit a different set of wheels just to completely rule out the wheels. If it does it with 2 sets of wheels, it's something else.

DonkeyApple

69,914 posts

198 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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DKS said:
OldBuoy said:
Countdown said:
DKS said:
The vibration stopping when braking suggests wheel bearing to me.
I'm not an expert by any means but with wheel bearing I'd expect noise rather than vibration . Also it would be more constant over a wider speed "range"

The fact that its only apparent between 70-75 suggests wheel out of balance to me.
A worn bearing can exaggerate other problems.
Absolutely you'd expect a groaning or even whining but I was trying to think why it'd stop the vibration by braking. The wife's car, had a wheel off fitting new tyres and the o/s front bearing was totally shot; about 5mm of play, it was outrageous! Yet no noise at all, not in the slightest.
If the vibration only occurs between the window of 70-75 you'd be hard pressed to pick up the issue when braking as the amount of time in that window is going to be tiny.

I've just bought a Rangie Classic which has the exact symptoms other than that road surface can halt it or bring it on earlier. Until I get the wheels checked and balanced there isn't anything else that I can do about it.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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It will be the wheels balancing. Especially as you can drive through the wobble

If you apply the brakes and it stops then thats because you are slowing down and moving from out of the wobble window, also they act as a restraint and will stabilise the out of balance wheel to some extent and allow the coil spring to soak it up a little more.


skyrover

12,700 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th August 2014
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Make sure your wheel is actually round as well... potholes can inflict a toll.

KungFuPanda

Original Poster:

4,640 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Got the front wheels balanced and it drives perfectly on the mway now! Cheers for all your help guys.

zebra

4,555 posts

243 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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If it is none of the above, could be that the tyre compound has gone off.