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poorcardealer

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8,663 posts

270 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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A car fraud amounting to nearly £26K is not worthy of C.I.Ds investigation.......passed to them then back to a uniformed officer...........???

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655 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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poorcardealer said:

A car fraud amounting to nearly £26K is not worthy of C.I.Ds investigation.......passed to them then back to a uniformed officer...........???


The cut off limit it £27k, i'm afraid...

autismuk

1,529 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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However, the Police can afford two cars and three policeman to enforce ASBO orders against pigs.

(This is not a snide remark about cops. It means what it says).

The minor detail that the complainant is a county councillor probably has nothing to do with this response.

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655 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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Rural policing....always resources for big jobs....

poorcardealer

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8,663 posts

270 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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I dont feel I am getting value for money from the police.........if I am a victim of crime amounting to more than some people earn in a year I think it worthy of proper investigation, CID told me they are too busy dealing with Burglary and assult!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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Yet they won't be too busy to zap you for doing 80 on a motorway. Sorry, but the frustration is understandable.

Billy Liar keeps telling us that there are X many new police.... So where are they? Certainly not policing. Tied up in some statistical paperwork excercise or other to make the politicos look good no doubt

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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poorcardealer said:

I dont feel I am getting value for money from the police.........if I am a victim of crime amounting to more than some people earn in a year I think it worthy of proper investigation, CID told me they are too busy dealing with Burglary and assult!


The problem is that burglary and assaults are classed as "signal crimes", with a potentially more devastating result on the victim.

As with everything else, CID will be subject to performance indicators and objectives, set by the higher ups. Basically, if "your" crime doesn't fall within their remit, with limited resources, it's a non starter.

Our Divisional CID is running at about 40% of its establishment, because DCs and DSs are constantly abstracted to long term, major enquiries, either in the Division, or elsewhere in the force.

I'm not suggesting that being the victim of a £25k fraud is fun, just trying to give you the reason CID may not have taken it on.

And what's wrong with a uniformed officer dealing with it...?!

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655 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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BliarOut said:
Yet they won't be too busy to zap you for doing 80 on a motorway. Sorry, but the frustration is understandable.

Billy Liar keeps telling us that there are X many new police.... So where are they? Certainly not policing. Tied up in some statistical paperwork excercise or other to make the politicos look good no doubt


CID wont zap you for doing 80 on a motorway..different departments, different remits....we really need to get that across...that sort of statement is the reason why trafpol numbers are the lowest ever...!

You are absolutely correct with stats and paperwork.
Minorities officers,
Race equality officers,
school liaison officers,
Anti-social behaviour officer (work alongside local government)
etc etc etc

poorcardealer

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270 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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I dont blame the individual officers, its goverment dressing things up so they look better........bloody annoying all the same.

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Wednesday 15th December 2004
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poorcardealer said:

I dont blame the individual officers, its goverment dressing things up so they look better........bloody annoying all the same.


Like I always say on here....

Get chosing with your pens...ie: vote Conservative next time...or have another 4 years of the same..

poorcardealer

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8,663 posts

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Wednesday 15th December 2004
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poorcardealer said:

I dont blame the individual officers, its goverment dressing things up so they look better........bloody annoying all the same.



Like I always say on here....

Get chosing with your pens...ie: vote Conservative next time...or have another 4 years of the same..


Too many downsides there I am afraid!!

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655 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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There isn't a viable alternative i'm afraid...

poorcardealer

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270 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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I know and I think we are all suffering because of it...

anniesdad

14,589 posts

267 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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No doubt about it Tories for me this time...This country is a bloody shambles and the tories can't make it any worse.

Lib Dem is a wasted vote.

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261 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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anniesdad said:
No doubt about it Tories for me this time...This country is a bloody shambles and the tories can't make it any worse.

Lib Dem is a wasted vote.


agreed



mutt k

3,964 posts

267 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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anniesdad said:
No doubt about it Tories for me this time...This country is a bloody shambles and the tories can't make it any worse.

Lib Dem is a wasted vote.



agreed





Then we have to make sure that as many people as possible use their vote. If we get the same p1ss poor turnout as last time, then we are likely to get the same result. If you don't vote, you don't deserve to sit in on this forum whinging about crappy government.

s2art

18,942 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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Problem is, its not just central government. I suspect that most of the stupid speed limits are down to local goverment.
So not only do we need to get Nulab out, we need something to happen at a local level.

I suppose if the Tories would get rid of speed cameras, that might be sufficient.

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655 posts

261 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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mutt k said:


Then we have to make sure that as many people as possible use their vote. If we get the same p1ss poor turnout as last time, then we are likely to get the same result. If you don't vote, you don't deserve to sit in on this forum whinging about crappy government.




I agree wholeheartedly...people have died fighting for their right to a vote and yet so many brits take it for granted...disgusting..

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Wednesday 15th December 2004
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poorcardealer said:

A car fraud amounting to nearly £26K is not worthy of C.I.Ds investigation.......passed to them then back to a uniformed officer...........???


My dad is in fraud prevention and currently has one scrote who tries on a nearly daily basis to rip him off to the tune of thousands of pounds, each time in a different name / accent. We have his address and after a bit of digging his real name. Can we get the law to go round up this geezer? Not a chance.

Between my dad and myself we've been stopped 6 times in the last year (both high mileage drivers) for speeding, all but twice with unmarked cars.

Is it not time for a bit of prioritisation?

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655 posts

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Wednesday 15th December 2004
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markmullen said:

poorcardealer said:

A car fraud amounting to nearly £26K is not worthy of C.I.Ds investigation.......passed to them then back to a uniformed officer...........???



My dad is in fraud prevention and currently has one scrote who tries on a nearly daily basis to rip him off to the tune of thousands of pounds, each time in a different name / accent. We have his address and after a bit of digging his real name. Can we get the law to go round up this geezer? Not a chance.

Between my dad and myself we've been stopped 6 times in the last year (both high mileage drivers) for speeding, all but twice with unmarked cars.

Is it not time for a bit of prioritisation?


That's right...keep it up...whining about traffic police...

It is no wonder there are less and less dedicated traffic officers only to be replaced by cameras...

You should be shunned by every corner of the motoring world for being party to the reason why we are in the mess we're in..