clocking mileage
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mdowning

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218 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Do modern cars still get clocked?

I'm looking at through classifieds for a BMW (F01) 730d. There are quite a few examples that are 3yrs old, with almost exactly 30k miles.

I'd have thought the majority of these cars would attract much higher mileages over 3yrs e.g. used for chauffeuring etc.

Perhaps I'm being cynical, but were someone to take out a 3yr lease on a new 730d with 10k miles per year limit, how easy would it be for them to tamper with the odometer so that 25-30k miles per year magically becomes 10k per year?

leafspring

7,032 posts

166 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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They can be clocked with the right computer program...

Whether they have been, can't say for certain. Usual checks are wear on pedal rubbers, floor mats, steering wheel rim, gear lever, buttons etc

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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I think you'd be able to tell the difference between a car that had done 75-90k and a car that had done 30k.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

152 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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mdowning said:
Do modern cars still get clocked?
Yes.

Just look at the number of 'mileage correction' adverts out there.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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There's a lovely lady that drives her children to the same nursery my little boy goes to that has an 11 plate 730d, that one hasn't gone anywhere near 30k miles.

nonsense

89 posts

150 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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yes, but on something so new it should leave a trace on the ecu which if asked a BMW specialist/dealer should be able to check i believe!

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Cars like that would be lease for the first three years of their lives. The leases will have a mileage limit of around 10k a year which would explain the plethora of 30k three year old cars.

However, on the flip side, the mileage limits would tempt some owners to clock their cars before every service to reflect a lower mileage.

mdowning

Original Poster:

218 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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KungFuPanda said:
However, on the flip side, the mileage limits would tempt some owners to clock their cars before every service to reflect a lower mileage.
This is what I was wondering. I guess you need to go and inspect the car to tell. But I wasn't sure how easy it would be to clock a 2011 BMW... based on the above comments, it seems to be totally feasible.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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mdowning said:
Do modern cars still get clocked?
Yes. I viewed one with a digital dash, showing 58,000 miles.

HPI said it had done 123,000 four years ago.

0a

24,138 posts

223 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Inkyfingers said:
I think you'd be able to tell the difference between a car that had done 75-90k and a car that had done 30k.
I don't think you will / should be able to. A 75k mile car should not be very worn at all.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
mdowning said:
Do modern cars still get clocked?
Yes. I viewed one with a digital dash, showing 58,000 miles.

HPI said it had done 123,000 four years ago.
Or it might have done 23,000 miles four years ago and some fat fingered twunt hit two digits at the same time.

Mileage on HPI should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

Qwert1e

545 posts

147 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Inkyfingers said:
I think you'd be able to tell the difference between a car that had done 75-90k and a car that had done 30k.
How? IMO it has far more to do with how the car's been treated and what its use cycle has been.

The MOT database should now make it much easier to spot on cars over 3 years old.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Roo said:
mybrainhurts said:
mdowning said:
Do modern cars still get clocked?
Yes. I viewed one with a digital dash, showing 58,000 miles.

HPI said it had done 123,000 four years ago.
Or it might have done 23,000 miles four years ago and some fat fingered twunt hit two digits at the same time.

Mileage on HPI should always be taken with a pinch of salt.
No, there was a long list of recorded mileages for this one.

rallycross

13,752 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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mdowning said:
Do modern cars still get clocked??
Yes and it's mostly the ones under 3 years old getting clocked - since the online mot history came into effect which stops them clocking older cars.

You will struggle to spot the differences between a really clean clocked 70k miles 3 yr old Bmw and a 30k 3 yr old example - if it's been well looked after and done motorway miles - unless you are very familiar with them it's not easy to tell the difference.

Escy

4,130 posts

178 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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rallycross said:
Yes and it's mostly the ones under 3 years old getting clocked - since the online mot history came into effect which stops them clocking older cars
They just get clocked before they are due an MOT and service

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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mp3manager

4,254 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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charltjr said:
I'd like the km's converted into miles for my Japanese import, thank you very much.

All above board and completely legal, as anyone with a JDM car will confirm.


mdowning

Original Poster:

218 posts

235 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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It seems slightly bizarre to me that it still appears relatively straight forward to clock a car. I'd have thought it's very rare for there to ever be a legitimate reason to alter a car's mileage. So it would make sense to make odometers tamper proof.