Competency based assessment/recruitment
Competency based assessment/recruitment
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blueST

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4,883 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I'm grumpy about this at the minute because I've never been good at it and I'm trying to do one now, but..... Is competency based applications and interviews really a good way to recruit and promote staff? It's embraced whole heartedly where I work but all I seem to see is it favouring those who like blowing their own trumpet and are good at stretching the truth. It also seems to deter many good candidates. I reckon that this method of selecting people massively favours those who have learnt the competency lingo/tactics and actual vocational ability plays a relatively small part.

Just wondered what those less biased than I think of it? I don't really have any ideas for a better approach, but there must be another way.

tenpenceshort

32,880 posts

246 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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It's just a test. Learn how to pass the test. Once you've got the job your vocational ability can come to the fore.

Gargamel

16,349 posts

290 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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A normal interview still favours those who are good at blowing their on trumpet and bullstting.

Competence assessment when done properly is statistically proven to be the best, most predicative indicator of selecting the most suitable candidates for a role.

Around 53%


rog007

5,829 posts

253 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Interviews favour those who are good at interviews. Competency based selection, as stated, is better but must be done correctly; not all do it correctly as it takes time, effort and skill.

blueST

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4,883 posts

245 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I guess it's just a case of learning to play the game, but for some reason I just don't seem to be able to get it. All the rediculous bullst buzzwords that crop up in the competencies get on my wick too! If I can get past the sift I usually do well in interviews

edc

9,628 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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It sounds like you are too focussed on the buzzwords and terms rather than actually demonstrating clearly and concisely what you can do and your specific competencies. It is easier said than done, but listen to the question and understand exactly what is being asked. Don't listen for the buzzwords and reach back in your phrasebook to blurt out an answer. You could probably do with being better prepared too. If you say you have the experience then you need to simply match those experiences to the competencies required. Get a load of job descriptions. List what competencies they require. Write down 5 examples of how you can show you successfully show that with a positive outcome.

Gargamel

16,349 posts

290 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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blueST said:
I guess it's just a case of learning to play the game, but for some reason I just don't seem to be able to get it. All the rediculous bullst buzzwords that crop up in the competencies get on my wick too! If I can get past the sift I usually do well in interviews
You need to clearly structure your answers to ensure the interview really understands your ability. The STAR response is still the best way.


QU - Tell me about a time when you managed a project .....

Answer

Situation. The business strategy required us to improve our customer response time

Task. My role was to identify all customer contact points - Phone, email, Web enquiry and track traffic weekly monthly to provide a volume analysis and monitor average response times

Action, I found and implemented monitoring software to produce a KPI dashbard, when I then used to analyse responses, and then I re scheduled the shift patterns of staff to have more resouces in peak periods

Result, in three months we reduced customer response times by an average of 17% and that lead to an increase in sales of 3% and a decline in customers abandoning calls of 15%.

blueST

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4,883 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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I try to use STAR but my examples are still usually garbage. We don't get asked things like "tell me a time when..." Instead I get a competency name like "partnership working", and are simply asked to write x number of words explaining how I meet the required level. I then have to refer to a book which details every competency along with what behaviours are expected and what levels. I must ensure my answer demonstrates the listed behaviours. Repeat for four of five competencies.

kowalski655

15,215 posts

172 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Civil Service by any chance?
They are BS arent they-just look at some of the managers who "passed" them!

blueST

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4,883 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Correct. And I resemble that last sentence ;-)

edc

9,628 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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So is your gripe about the use of the application forms? Even if so, the same principles apply. You have to be able to communicate clearly and concisely. Understand the question. It might not even be a question it might be a statement. If you already know the style of questions/statements and the competencies that are to be assessed then you are in as good a position as you can be to present yourself in the best light. The problem sounds like that you cannot get things across in a way that the reader understands. Have somebody else check your responses. You probably think your examples and responses are brilliant but somebody else probably does not understand what you are writing.

Conor D

2,124 posts

204 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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blueST said:
I try to use STAR but my examples are still usually garbage. We don't get asked things like "tell me a time when..." Instead I get a competency name like "partnership working", and are simply asked to write x number of words explaining how I meet the required level. I then have to refer to a book which details every competency along with what behaviours are expected and what levels. I must ensure my answer demonstrates the listed behaviours. Repeat for four of five competencies.
At the end of the day, everyone has to jump through the same hoops.

I've found it's essential to decipher what information they're actually looking for when they ask a question - often it's not what it seems. Look at the job description, look at the question and think about what answer they want. Then answer with some evidence of experience you have to satisfy their requirements.

blueST

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4,883 posts

245 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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I think the point I'm trying to make is that this type of assessment ends up recruiting people who are good at this type assessment and are hopefully adequate for the role. It doesn't seem to actually get you the best candidate for the job, unless the two things happen to coincide in the same person.

I just got to thinking there must be a better way, short of actually trying every candidate in the job.