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I'm in the process of buying a small commercial property, because my business needs a little more space. It's an empty building so there are no complications - price is agreed and everything should be straight forward. I told my lawyer that I needed to be in by the first week of January. He said, back in October, "no problem".
He calls me yesterday to say that he can't make the deadline because he's going on holiday to Australia and no one can deal with it in his absense. I said to him "if I said to my clients, I can't do such and such because I'm going on holiday, I'd be out of business". He said "well property law is a very specialist area". I said to him "the decision you need to make, is either get the deal done by Christmas and retain my custom, or don't do it and lose my future business". He elected for the latter.
I will have the last laugh though. I've got quite a big property and business deal brewing and I'll be getting legal quotes submitted in February (probably). I'll let him spend hours preparing a detailed quote, get him through to the final two and then decline him - reminding him of yesterday's conversation.
Only a lawyer could be that arrogant.
He calls me yesterday to say that he can't make the deadline because he's going on holiday to Australia and no one can deal with it in his absense. I said to him "if I said to my clients, I can't do such and such because I'm going on holiday, I'd be out of business". He said "well property law is a very specialist area". I said to him "the decision you need to make, is either get the deal done by Christmas and retain my custom, or don't do it and lose my future business". He elected for the latter.
I will have the last laugh though. I've got quite a big property and business deal brewing and I'll be getting legal quotes submitted in February (probably). I'll let him spend hours preparing a detailed quote, get him through to the final two and then decline him - reminding him of yesterday's conversation.
Only a lawyer could be that arrogant.
Just been dealing with a total 
wit of a solicitor myself - who said the issue would take 2-3 months tops to resolve. We are now up to 7 months with no resolution to a very simple matter.
Pretty much all Lawyers/Solicitors in my fairly extensive experience of them are incompetent and arrogant.
The job they do is mostly very easy, and they charge a fortune for it. I usually end up doing most of it myself anyway just to get things done.
Problem is they don't really care about customer service or their reputations. And as a customer, you are really just an irritation that interrupts their golf/extended lunch/holiday.
>> Edited by alexkp on Thursday 16th December 23:08
wit of a solicitor myself - who said the issue would take 2-3 months tops to resolve. We are now up to 7 months with no resolution to a very simple matter. Pretty much all Lawyers/Solicitors in my fairly extensive experience of them are incompetent and arrogant.
The job they do is mostly very easy, and they charge a fortune for it. I usually end up doing most of it myself anyway just to get things done.
Problem is they don't really care about customer service or their reputations. And as a customer, you are really just an irritation that interrupts their golf/extended lunch/holiday.
>> Edited by alexkp on Thursday 16th December 23:08
thebluemonkey said:
Could one of the thousands of solicitors about not help you with this or is it more complicated in the case of commercial property ?
Yes it was intentional
No it's not complicated, he's obviously got an 'ego' problem. In point of fact, it doesn't matter because today I met the current owner, explained the situation to him and he's agreed that I can move in whenever I like - and the legals can then be done retrospectively. Such things can be progressed so much quicker when the two parties talk direct.
shnozz said:
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yep, and pretty much all the posts I have read of yours are arrogant and full of adoration of your own self belief. So from your own analysis of the legal profession you will quite happily be compentent enough to deal with your own legal affairs. tit.
I think you've just proved my point thanks.
Oh, and learn to spell and write English while you are at it - don't want any confusion on those legal documents.
>> Edited by alexkp on Thursday 16th December 23:48
anonymous said:
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oh come on Director of Media / Senior Academic. Full of self belief should have been highlighted with flying colours in your last post. I wouldn't wish to insult your own intelligence if you fail to see the irony in your arrogance bearded fellow/
If you have such little respect then why use lawyers at all? As you are no doubt fully aware, the Courts are open for lay individuals to utilise. Why waste your money with us mere uneducated individuals?
Many of the Lawyers on PH have been very generous with both their time and their very good free advice on and off of the forum.
My own solictor has just drafted my will for free.
Maybe you should try treating people as you wish to be treated, it's the holiday season maybe he wants some quality time with his family, like you say you've managed to make arrangements with the vendor, so it's caused you no hardship.
My own solictor has just drafted my will for free.
Maybe you should try treating people as you wish to be treated, it's the holiday season maybe he wants some quality time with his family, like you say you've managed to make arrangements with the vendor, so it's caused you no hardship.
err, if I or one of my partners said anything like that to our clients, then we would be a lot poorer next year.
Is this a sole practitioner? If so, then teh guy should have communicated better. Going on holiday is all very well, but dealign with clients in this way is simply not on.
We cancel holidays all the time for client needs, but then my firm is rather larger and more expensive than the average high street firm.
Is this a sole practitioner? If so, then teh guy should have communicated better. Going on holiday is all very well, but dealign with clients in this way is simply not on.
We cancel holidays all the time for client needs, but then my firm is rather larger and more expensive than the average high street firm.
wedge girl said:
Many of the Lawyers on PH have been very generous with both their time and their very good free advice on and off of the forum.
come on wedge girl, we are all incompetent and arrogant. Those PHers that have had free advice from me and financially gained - I was wrong! hand it back to your opponent!
anonymous said:
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I'll try and make sense of what you are saying.
Sorry if you find my profession threatening. Conversely, few people seem to have any real regard for yours.
Where does the "bearded fellow" comment come from? Do you have a problem with beards? It's called Pogrophobia and is a recognised condition. Or even stranger, do you know me? Perhaps you were one of the solicitors who has failed me in the past?
In response to your second point, I try to use solicitors as little as possible. However, in the past five years I have had to deal with at least seven or eight at length. These ranged from local solicitors who screwed up dealing with my mother's will and caused considerable distress to my family, or rendered me homeless over a Christmas and New Year due to failing to complete on a house as they had lost the paperwork, to London firms charging £400 per hour for advice that made matters worse until I took charge and sorted the problem myself.
I'm so sorry if you are uncomfortable with the general public's perception of the profession, but hey, you chose it. Find me someone who will honestly say that they have had a positive experience of solicitors in this country and I'll be impressed.
Anyhow, I'm sure you buck the trend. But you should know that calling people names is pretty childish and could be considered defamatory.
threatening. no. give a toss. no. interested. not really.
sorry your experiences have been so poor. Name calling. Yes. In response to generalisation. Yes. Will I sleep. Ooooh, yes.
Your experience with the legal profession seems pretty poor. My apologies. Cannot give you that in writing as it would be £16. But you want to take the stereotype approach then fair enough. I assume that you will forgive me for taking a similar approach to directors of media? If so, I am afraid I am a little more broad minded. night all
sorry your experiences have been so poor. Name calling. Yes. In response to generalisation. Yes. Will I sleep. Ooooh, yes.
Your experience with the legal profession seems pretty poor. My apologies. Cannot give you that in writing as it would be £16. But you want to take the stereotype approach then fair enough. I assume that you will forgive me for taking a similar approach to directors of media? If so, I am afraid I am a little more broad minded. night all
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