RE: Porsche 918 Spyder (not) recalled
RE: Porsche 918 Spyder (not) recalled
Thursday 11th September 2014

Porsche 918 Spyder (not) recalled

Memo reveals truth behind headlines of apparent safety recall for faulty suspension components



Vehicle recalls are a touchy subject for Porsche at the minute. The breeze blowing over the flaming GT3 debacle has just about put out those fires - and no sooner has that issue been addressed, Stuttgart is having to battle some over-zealous safety procedure Stateside.

This week the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) in America issued what it calls a recall notice for defective rear axle control arms on the 918 Spyder.

Faulty components found in rear suspension linkage
Faulty components found in rear suspension linkage
The note affected five American market cars built between May 7 and June 18 2014, which were fitted with faulty rear suspension components that, according to the NHTSA, "may break, causing difficulty controlling the vehicle." Language that, inevitably, caused some 'new Porsche recall' headlines.

Thing is, it was Porsche who found the problem itself. In the note it submitted to the NHTSA (it's a requirement for manufacturers to keep them updated), Porsche stated, "Internal tests have shown that the rear axle longitudinal and transverse control arms from a certain production batch do not meet the required specifications and may have been installed on some vehicles."

Handily, it also submitted a timeline of events, viewable here and summed up as follows:

"June 26 2014: Failure of component during heavy-duty durability testing (extreme race conditions) on the Porsche AG race track and testing facility in Nardo, Italy.

"June 27 2014: Contact with supplier via telephone informing them of failure.

"July 18 2014: Decision for worldwide recall and stop sale notification followed by directcustomer telephone contact informing them not to operate vehicles on the race track."

Never any question of failures in normal road use
Never any question of failures in normal road use
So when did the NHTSA publish Porsche's own recall memo? September 9 2014. Two months after Porsche took action to rectify the problem - which, incidentally, it didn't have to notify customers of in the US anyway because "no such vehicles were in the dealer inventory."

Naturally, PH spoke to a Porsche spokesperson to find out if any European or UK cars were affected (the answer was none) who told us, "The problem was spotted and resolved in production, with any vehicles in transit immediately remedied before delivery."

Yes, it could have been a safety issue, but the defect only reared its head under extreme testing conditions. Don't forget, the 918 relentlessly pounded around the Nordschleife for weeks - hammering kerbs and eventually setting that 6min 57sec lap record - without any real problems. There's procedure and then there's procedure. It seems here Porsche has been a victim of a mix of its own transparency and thoroughness, and US institutional legislation here.

A few now ex-Porsche customers might not take that view following singed backsides, but don't believe the hype. Porsche seems to have had it in hand all along.

[Sources: NHTSA]

 

 

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Roma101

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859 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Um, this is a little confusing. The article says early on that the "recall" affected 5 US market vehicles, but then later on says that there were no US cars affected. These 5 cars were built before the problem arose so would potentially have had the faulty parts and not replaced parts. Is it the case that these cars were built but had not left the factory or were not delivered?



Edited by Roma101 on Thursday 11th September 15:22

canucklehead

416 posts

176 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Roma101 said:
Um, this is a little confusing. The article says early on that the "recall" affected 5 US market vehicles, but then later on says that there were no US cars affected. These 5 cars were built before the problem arose so would potentially have had the faulty parts and not replaced parts. Is it the case that these cars were built but had not left the factory or were not delivered?



Edited by Roma101 on Thursday 11th September 15:22
sounds like some cars destined for the US market were affected, but were fixed prior to delivery stateside.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Media in 'over-reaction' shocker!

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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"Stateside", aka, the USA.

Since when was the USA called "Stateside" all the time?


Sounds like a non-story really. Car breaks under hard testing on track... surely if you give any car enough grief it'll break.

Great to know Porsche actually do this testing and tell you, and then rectify it. Just use any normal road car and they break parts like this eventually just doing normal road work!

Dave

Al 450

1,390 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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This is a perfectly normal course of action for a Manufacturer and NHTSA and it is a recall. For a recently launched specialist vehicle like this it's just much easier for the manufacturers to track the vehicles than normal hence Porsche were able to action the recall before NHTSA could communicate it.

smilo996

3,839 posts

200 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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This sounds like PH doing Porsche PR again.

The components were tested and failed because they did not meet the spec laid down by Porsche. The spec is designed to ensure the car is capable. Presumably some 918 owners will take their cars to the track on several or perhaps many occasions, thus there is a risk that this component would fail now or in the future. It is afterall a very high performence sports car costing £650,000.

The fact that they have identified the cars affected is what should or would be expected, especially when the level of production is 918. This fault affects @0.5% of total production. If this was on the the Ford Focus 2013 model, 18,000 cars would have to be recalled.

The fact that the US authorities have issued this is likely to cover their arses. The cars will still need to be recalled unless unsold.

P4ROT

1,219 posts

223 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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PhantomPH said:
Media in 'over-reaction' shocker!
True, true...Although, I think it's nice to see that Porsche values rock solid build quality, as apposed to good press (obviosuly, both in conjunction are preferable!).

daytona365

1,773 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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Oh wow. Finally a feature on a car I REALLY like. Collapsed suspensions not withstanding !!

Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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smilo996 said:
The components were tested and failed because they did not meet the spec laid down by Porsche. The spec is designed to ensure the car is capable. Presumably some 918 owners will take their cars to the track on several or perhaps many occasions, thus there is a risk that this component would fail now or in the future. It is afterall a very high performence sports car costing £650,000.
This, the NHTSA have just put out the recall information it was provided, for a part that wasn't safe, whether it broke moving at 5mph or 200mph is irrelevant as it still failed and as such didn't comply with the standards porsche require. I'm honestly struggling to see what the story is here or is it more of a case of porsche got a bit pissed with the previous info and have provided a cover arse piece so that they can say, well it didn't actually fail and no-one was at risk so the NHTSA are asshats (sp) and thereby keep their reputation intact? confused

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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So NHTSA need to make sure every component Porsche specifies meets spec on production cars, and Porsche are liable for testing the parts for approval?

So when Porsche then discovered a part wasn't to spec after it failed in arduous conditions, and realised a batch wasn't correct, they are now rectifying it.

NHTSA simply repeat information to owners so they know to go get their car fixed by the manufacturer?


Great story if so.

It proves Porsche do lots of testing, and pro-actively fix customer cars.

It also shows the NHTSA works too which is no bad thing if they do the same for manufacturers who are less forthcoming about car faults to their owners.

juansolo

3,012 posts

308 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Mr Whippy said:
It proves Porsche do lots of testing, and pro-actively fix customer cars.
I wonder if they'll pro-actively swap my chocolate track rod ends (that they uprated later and didn't bother recalling the cars fitted with the ones that wear out prematurely). Nah, didn't think so.

M@1975

591 posts

257 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Porsche test adn fix? tell that to the owners of a 3.8 997 which has a worse rep than the 996 for moody engines these days.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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juansolo said:
Mr Whippy said:
It proves Porsche do lots of testing, and pro-actively fix customer cars.
I wonder if they'll pro-actively swap my chocolate track rod ends (that they uprated later and didn't bother recalling the cars fitted with the ones that wear out prematurely). Nah, didn't think so.
Hehe, I was maybe being subtly ironic... but it's the exact reason I wouldn't want to buy any 996 bar a turbo or GT3 these days hehe

juansolo

3,012 posts

308 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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*thumbs up*

I think they got away with the whole IMS thing, no one remembers that do they...? wink

BSC

341 posts

312 months

Saturday 27th September 2014
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Faulty components found in rear suspension linkage

Could someone explain which parts in the pic failed?

Edited by BSC on Saturday 27th September 03:06