The price of used cars amazes me !
The price of used cars amazes me !
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Thankyou4calling

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10,994 posts

203 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I started driving aged 18, that was thirty years ago.

My first car was a barely MOT'd Ford Escort and I paid £350 for it.

It sometimes started, was covered in rust and was, at 15 years old when I got it very much on its last legs, it took daily maintenance to keep it going.

Fast forward to 2014 and you can still buy a car, with MOT and in better shape for £350!

It's quite remarkable really. What are others experiences?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

218 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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People travel over from Europe to buy scrap cars to break, Latvia and Romania are quite big now on ebay for breaking cars.

Second hand cars are hugely undervalued, but all the better for those that don't believe that only a 1-2 year old car will do.

Fattyfat

3,310 posts

226 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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I think our expectations have moved on some what and I have to confess of being guilty of that.

3 years ago I bought a perfectly usable and quite tidy Saab 9-5 for a mere £500. Sold it this year (stupidly) and according to Askmid etc, it's still on the go. With a little TLC no reason it won't see another 100K without any big bills.

What amazes me more is the price that any 2nd hand VAG or BMW diesel seems to command.

Captainawesome

1,817 posts

193 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Fattyfat said:
I think our expectations have moved on some what and I have to confess of being guilty of that.

3 years ago I bought a perfectly usable and quite tidy Saab 9-5 for a mere £500. Sold it this year (stupidly) and according to Askmid etc, it's still on the go. With a little TLC no reason it won't see another 100K without any big bills.

What amazes me more is the price that any 2nd hand VAG or BMW diesel seems to command.
That's because they have more torques than a Ferrari bruv innit and if you input their mpg figures into a spread sheet you will discover that they will do a gazillion miles from just one tank.
Oh, they are also the fastest cars on the road easily outclassing anything with a weedy petrol engine due to the aforementioned torques and cost nothing...yes nothing to run and they make pretty flowers grow.


If you don't know that I'm not sure what you are doing on a site where speed used to matter. ..

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Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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What amazes me is the price some can fetch on Ebay...

P I Staker

3,308 posts

186 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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Jasandjules said:
What amazes me is the price some can fetch on Ebay...
I totally agree with this. eBay is not a place for cheap cars anymore.

Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Friday 12th September 2014
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P I Staker said:
I totally agree with this. eBay is not a place for cheap cars anymore.
Just seen a Cat D car go for more than a year newer non Cat D car.

renorti

727 posts

226 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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I agree on ebay, cat c and d cars fetch very close to undamaged cars,spares and repairs cars unreal what people pay.

Thankyou4calling

Original Poster:

10,994 posts

203 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Anyone agree or disagree with my original post? I'd enjoy reading some real life examples.

Qwert1e

545 posts

148 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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If you think ebay is expensive, just look at some of the comedy asking prices in the PH classifieds!

The world is full of used cars, and broadly speaking they lose half their value every 3 years through depreciation even if they are in good condition,

New £40,000
3 years £20,000
6 years £10,000
9 years £5,000
12 years £2,500

TheAngryDog

13,240 posts

239 months

Saturday 13th September 2014
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Qwert1e said:
If you think ebay is expensive, just look at some of the comedy asking prices in the PH classifieds!

The world is full of used cars, and broadly speaking they lose half their value every 3 years through depreciation even if they are in good condition,

New £40,000
3 years £20,000
6 years £10,000
9 years £5,000
12 years £2,500
Obviously this doesnt apply to all cars, and prices do tend to bottom out.

lamboman100

1,445 posts

151 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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TheAngryDog said:
Qwert1e said:
If you think ebay is expensive, just look at some of the comedy asking prices in the PH classifieds!

The world is full of used cars, and broadly speaking they lose half their value every 3 years through depreciation even if they are in good condition,

New £40,000
3 years £20,000
6 years £10,000
9 years £5,000
12 years £2,500
Obviously this doesnt apply to all cars, and prices do tend to bottom out.
The "50% decline every 3 years" is a great rule-of-thumb for getting an instant rough ballpark valuation.

There are 3 main price-curves for car lifetimes:

Bad cars follow a "forward-slash" price-curve (i.e. \).
Good cars are L-shaped.
Great cars are "Nike swoosh" or U-shaped.

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
I started driving aged 18, that was thirty years ago.

My first car was a barely MOT'd Ford Escort and I paid £350 for it.

It sometimes started, was covered in rust and was, at 15 years old when I got it very much on its last legs, it took daily maintenance to keep it going.

Fast forward to 2014 and you can still buy a car, with MOT and in better shape for £350!

It's quite remarkable really. What are others experiences?
I was looking at this the other day.

An entry level C class was pretty much the same price in 1999 as it is today without adjusting for inflation, which means back then it was 30% more expensive than today!

Zad

13,008 posts

266 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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What has had a big effect is the long term reliability and general build quality. I remember the cars my dad had in the 1980s, panels were rusting through by the time they were 5 years old, and they were refusing to start in damp or cold weather. Clearly nothings perfect, but a 5 year old car now is pretty much brand new. This has the knock-on that there are many more older cars around.

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

255 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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15 years ago used cars in the uk were not particularly cheap compared to the rest of Europe. In fact that was the peak times of "rip off Britain". These days however new cars are much more affordable, and used cars are comedy cheap. The uk is currently a second hand car buyers dream! Nowhere else like it.

pavka007

522 posts

159 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Captainawesome said:
If you don't know that I'm not sure what you are doing on a site where speed used to matter. ..

wink
Regardless of your statement you are still here......enough said.

Fleckers

2,880 posts

231 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
I started driving aged 18, that was thirty years ago.

My first car was a barely MOT'd Ford Escort and I paid £350 for it.

It sometimes started, was covered in rust and was, at 15 years old when I got it very much on its last legs, it took daily maintenance to keep it going.

Fast forward to 2014 and you can still buy a car, with MOT and in better shape for £350!

It's quite remarkable really. What are others experiences?
Just think if had not scrapped that escort how much it would be worth now !!

Even rotten shells are fetching silly money

I scrapped at bout 10 mk1 & 2 escorts all 2 door shells when they became rust and air, oh for a tine machine and knowledge to have dry stored them....

flatso

1,365 posts

159 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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dvs_dave said:
15 years ago used cars in the uk were not particularly cheap compared to the rest of Europe. In fact that was the peak times of "rip off Britain". These days however new cars are much more affordable, and used cars are comedy cheap. The uk is currently a second hand car buyers dream! Nowhere else like it.
Looking over from continental europe to some of the prices on the PH classifieds and the barge threads I have to say that some of the price levels you guys are enjoying are absolutely stunning. Actually a lot of swiss are now ordering their cars thorugh UK dealers (making sure that the left hand drive box is CHECKED).

Captainawesome

1,817 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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pavka007 said:
Regardless of your statement you are still here......enough said.
The wink indicated the jovial nature of my post.



oilspill

649 posts

223 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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flatso said:
Looking over from continental europe to some of the prices on the PH classifieds and the barge threads I have to say that some of the price levels you guys are enjoying are absolutely stunning. Actually a lot of swiss are now ordering their cars thorugh UK dealers (making sure that the left hand drive box is CHECKED).
That's not really unusual, the Swiss franc became very strong compared to GBP in recent years. 15 years ago you saved good money buying cars from Belgian dealers, in recent years I've seen Belgians and French buying motorcycles in UK.