MOT SRS warning lamp does not illuminate
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I've been looking at a car, one of the MOT advisories is for the airbag light not coming on
The MOT manual seems to suggest that this is a fail not an advisory.
I know there was some talk about them backing down on the requirements when they were due to come in, so what is the current situation ?
The MOT manual seems to suggest that this is a fail not an advisory.
I know there was some talk about them backing down on the requirements when they were due to come in, so what is the current situation ?
If you want to add a bodge to a bodge, then a transistor and resistor and a capacitor are all you need to make the light "come on for a bit at key-on". Of course, if you do this, and sell the car one, fooling the next buyer into thinking the airbags are fully working, you could be in a whole world of trouble..........
ging84 said:
I've been looking at a car, one of the MOT advisories is for the airbag light not coming on
The MOT manual seems to suggest that this is a fail not an advisory.
I know there was some talk about them backing down on the requirements when they were due to come in, so what is the current situation ?
Current wording, from the official source :-The MOT manual seems to suggest that this is a fail not an advisory.
I know there was some talk about them backing down on the requirements when they were due to come in, so what is the current situation ?
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s05000401.htm
It's not "indicating a malfunction", in that isn't on all the time - but it's clearly not healthy, because it's not doing the self-test - so a tester may well decide that's indication of a malfunction, and he wouldn't be out of order in doing so.
the site i looked at
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_540.htm
states
2.
A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:
. inoperative
. indicating a system malfunction.
this is it seems is an out of date version, so i guess that is what i remember about the issue being backed down on slightly
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_540.htm
states
2.
A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:
. inoperative
. indicating a system malfunction.
this is it seems is an out of date version, so i guess that is what i remember about the issue being backed down on slightly
SV8Predator said:
SEAN 46 said:
I have bucket seats so no air bags. Blanked out air bag light with duct tape and it passes MOT ?
OK, I'll bite. Why does "bucket seats" mean "no air bags"?ging84 said:
the site i looked at
http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_540.htm
states
2.
A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:
. inoperative
. indicating a system malfunction.
this is it seems is an out of date version, so i guess that is what i remember about the issue being backed down on slightly
Look at the proper official testers manual here:http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_540.htm
states
2.
A Supplementary Restraint System (SRS) malfunction indicator lamp:
. inoperative
. indicating a system malfunction.
this is it seems is an out of date version, so i guess that is what i remember about the issue being backed down on slightly
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/b...
The same section, 5.4.2 which has the vertical black lines next to it that denotes an amendment.
With the bucket seats thing, the car really needs to be modified for competition use, stripped out, roll cage, full harness, competition history etc., otherwise it'll run the risk of failing on missing SRS components that were fitted as original equipment, regardless of what the SRS warning lamp does.
Edited by mcford on Monday 15th September 20:29
Yep can only fail for being on, as said above can also fail a car for a missing air bag that was there from new but if ie been stripped for track use will come under another set of rules.
The reason it doesn't illuminate is that there is a problem with the system that could potential be expensive and the previous owner just wanted it through the mot to get rid of.
The reason it doesn't illuminate is that there is a problem with the system that could potential be expensive and the previous owner just wanted it through the mot to get rid of.
mcford said:
A lamp that doesn't light up can't indicate a system malfunction.
It can, because the lack of self-test indicates that the system is malfunctioning...It's bad wording. They really need to either clarify by saying correct self-test does not need to happen, or say that lack of correct self-test is a malfunction.
SEAN 46 said:
I have bucket seats so no air bags. Blanked out air bag light with duct tape and it passes MOT ?
There is leeway for modified cars otherwise it would end rallying overnight.Section 5:
http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4i00000502.htm
SV8Predator said:
SEAN 46 said:
I have bucket seats so no air bags. Blanked out air bag light with duct tape and it passes MOT ?
OK, I'll bite. Why does "bucket seats" mean "no air bags"?My 1998 Mondeo once decided to flash the air bag light, turned out to be a bottle had rolled under the passenger seat and disturbed the wiring to the seat belt. One disconnect and re-connect and it was all fine but if you've removed the seat belt to fit a harness you don't have that option!
That's ignoring the air-bags in seats etc (and again even my 1998 Mondeo had those).
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