A scam I'm unfamiliar with
A scam I'm unfamiliar with
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Escy

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4,130 posts

179 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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I've got a car for sale on the pistonheads classifieds. I have someone interested but asking the classic scammer questions. They've stated that they can't personally collect the car but will get an agent to collect. I've gone along with it for the time being.

They've now asked me to send them a paypal invoice for the amount.

This is the bit of don't get, what's the angle? Pay from a hacked paypal account?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Why bother - just ignore.

trickywoo

14,205 posts

260 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Just run away.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Either a hacked Paypal or a fake Paypal escrow.

ecsrobin

18,669 posts

195 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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hornetrider said:
Why bother - just ignore.
Because deep down he thinks he may get money??

Mr_Yogi

3,288 posts

285 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Doesn't PayPal stack things very heavily in favor of the buyer, thus they say the car's crap and get their money back?

eybic

9,212 posts

204 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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I think they claim the money back once you've shipped the car.

trickywoo

14,205 posts

260 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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ecsrobin said:
Because deep down he thinks he may get money??
Isn't that how all scams work?

OP is the buyer working 'offshore' or a marine biologist by any chance?

j80jpw

829 posts

192 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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I had exactly the same, word for word my response was "do one!"

Then I had another that seemed like a scam, "I work offshore, don't get much chance for leave at the moment but can come on such and such day could I pick him up from a local train station, please give me first refusal etc" I agreed to the date, knowing I would accept an offer in the meantime if one came along, he turned up and bought it, cash at the asking price.....

Stu78

287 posts

165 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Paypal will tell you to never take payment for any vehicle with an engine using Paypal as they don't give any sort of protection.

DrDoofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Stu78 said:
Paypal will tell you to never take payment for any vehicle with an engine using Paypal as they don't give any sort of protection.
They say quite clearly in the T&C's that everything you sell must be sent using an on-line trackable method. You don't have to follow these T&C's - but if you don't do what they say, and the buyer opens an 'item not received' claim, you will loose your money.

EnthusiastOwned

730 posts

147 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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But at the same time PayPal buyer protection doesn't included collected items...

Mr Classic

224 posts

149 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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he will then know your paypal details and can easily fake an email saying the funds have been sent. Bank transfer is as good as cash though.

sim16v

2,177 posts

231 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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If it's the same as I've had, he'll send a fake paypal receipt saying you have the funds.

He might then ask you to pay his "shipping agent", usually £500ish out of those funds, so he'll score for £500, not interested in getting the car.

I was bored, so strung one along for a few days, saying the funds hadn't hit my account, I haven't had the receipt etc.


I played a bit dumb, saying I hoped his paypal account hadn't been hacked, or he'd been a victim of one of those nasty online scammers, but never actually letting on that I knew full well he was a scammer.

It was funny, his emails got a bit more desperate each time, Heading in RED, then BOLD BLACK, then BOLD RED, then LARGER TYPE FACE, as if that made the emails more genuinelaugh



soad

34,666 posts

206 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Escy said:
I've got a car for sale on the pistonheads classifieds. I have someone interested but asking the classic scammer questions. They've stated that they can't personally collect the car but will get an agent to collect. I've gone along with it for the time being.

They've now asked me to send them a paypal invoice for the amount.

This is the bit of don't get, what's the angle? Pay from a hacked paypal account?
Most likely a fake "payment" e-mail notification. Give it a try and see for yourself. wink

AndStilliRise

2,295 posts

146 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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sim16v...

lets have a read?

blueg33

46,566 posts

254 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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My work colleague sold his Evoque this way.



Cash transferred to bank account

Agent came with a truck loaded the Evoque onto it and off he drove

Everything was fine


It is a risk though


996TT02

3,342 posts

170 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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blueg33 said:
My work colleague sold his Evoque this way.



Cash transferred to bank account
Cash to bank account is not Paypal.

thelawnet

1,539 posts

185 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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They just claim back your money from Paypal.

Stu78

287 posts

165 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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DrDoofenshmirtz said:
They say quite clearly in the T&C's that everything you sell must be sent using an on-line trackable method. You don't have to follow these T&C's - but if you don't do what they say, and the buyer opens an 'item not received' claim, you will loose your money.
The lad I spoke to at Paypal didn't really go into the details he just said never accept Paypal payment as any vehicle with an engine is not protected for the buyer or seller. What the buyer can do is report a suspicious transaction to the bank who will immediately withdraw funds from Paypal, Paypal have no powers to contest this.