What springs and shock?
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Hi Steve,
How long since you fitted the GG Pro's? Surely not that long ago?
And what are your symptoms of tiredness of the rears?
If you fancy an upgrade, the perceived wisdom is to fit Nitrons, with 450 front springs & 375 rears, but Nitrons are a good deal more pricey, and you then start to get into the realms of diminishing returns for exponentially greater outlay.
You need to establish what you want from your S, and how important those couple of extra tenths really are. Are you intending to go playing with the Sprint Challenge Series boys, or stick with the trackdays?
Perhaps you should be looking at tyre choices & geo set-up etc.?
But whatever you do, don't listen to me, I know nothing apart from what I've read/ learned/ heard.
Perhaps you'd be better asking the racers? ( Like AutoAndy or Max Haha! )
How long since you fitted the GG Pro's? Surely not that long ago?
And what are your symptoms of tiredness of the rears?
If you fancy an upgrade, the perceived wisdom is to fit Nitrons, with 450 front springs & 375 rears, but Nitrons are a good deal more pricey, and you then start to get into the realms of diminishing returns for exponentially greater outlay.
You need to establish what you want from your S, and how important those couple of extra tenths really are. Are you intending to go playing with the Sprint Challenge Series boys, or stick with the trackdays?
Perhaps you should be looking at tyre choices & geo set-up etc.?
But whatever you do, don't listen to me, I know nothing apart from what I've read/ learned/ heard.
Perhaps you'd be better asking the racers? ( Like AutoAndy or Max
Haha! )Edited by glenrobbo on Sunday 28th September 00:10
Go back to the originals! 
Properly refurbished and set up they should last around 50,000 miles minimum. My rears were "saggy" after 90,000 miles but fronts were still OK. How long did your GG Pro's last?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Properly refurbished and set up they should last around 50,000 miles minimum. My rears were "saggy" after 90,000 miles but fronts were still OK. How long did your GG Pro's last?http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I'm no expert Pete - far from it, but I'm told Nitrons are the best for the price - if you can afford them.
And those spring rates give the best handling/ride compromise once you get the damping rates & ride heights set up properly.
It's all down to how far you want to go on the quest for perfection, bit you are limited by many factors like chassis design & geometry; suspension bushes & bearings, anti-roll bar thickness & links, the list just goes on.
Personally I have decided to enjoy my S as it is & not worry too much about a never-ending quest for performance, as long as it continues to give me so much pleasure for so little outlay, I see no reason to change that happy state of affairs.
And those spring rates give the best handling/ride compromise once you get the damping rates & ride heights set up properly.
It's all down to how far you want to go on the quest for perfection, bit you are limited by many factors like chassis design & geometry; suspension bushes & bearings, anti-roll bar thickness & links, the list just goes on.
Personally I have decided to enjoy my S as it is & not worry too much about a never-ending quest for performance, as long as it continues to give me so much pleasure for so little outlay, I see no reason to change that happy state of affairs.
Is this just a subjective evaluation Steve, or do you have any empirical data re load vs. deflection etc.?
I would not expect springs to lose their temper in such a short time.
Perhaps you are getting more perceived saggyness due to higher cornering speeds which come with increased confidence?
Plus you have more unsprung weight now with those mahoosive dinner plates of yours.
I would not expect springs to lose their temper in such a short time.
Perhaps you are getting more perceived saggyness due to higher cornering speeds which come with increased confidence?
Plus you have more unsprung weight now with those mahoosive dinner plates of yours.
glenrobbo said:
Personally I have decided to enjoy my S as it is & not worry too much about a never-ending quest for performance, as long as it continues to give me so much pleasure for so little outlay, I see no reason to change that happy state of affairs.
Nice choice of words Glen - and wise words. I could do a wallet busting exercise on the "S" or just treat it as maintenance and gradual improvement. The truth is, its a bit of a toy, so when there's some spare bunce, the "S" benefits. But that's never going to make mine a show queen. But then I don't particularly like polishing and ogling. I'd rather take it for a blast. The pit of money is always there to be jumped in, but your right in that there's a place for happy middle ground.Deeman said:
glenrobbo said:
Personally I have decided to enjoy my S as it is & not worry too much about a never-ending quest for performance, as long as it continues to give me so much pleasure for so little outlay, I see no reason to change that happy state of affairs.
Nice choice of words Glen - and wise words. I could do a wallet busting exercise on the "S" or just treat it as maintenance and gradual improvement. The truth is, its a bit of a toy, so when there's some spare bunce, the "S" benefits. But that's never going to make mine a show queen. But then I don't particularly like polishing and ogling. I'd rather take it for a blast. The pit of money is always there to be jumped in, but your right in that there's a place for happy middle ground.bit more difficult if you've bought a dog and it needs every thing
Hmm
Ive sold loads of S kits with very little trouble so dont understand the problem, perhaps a PM would help
Those who are looking for alternatives with more options could maybe consider the new Gaz TA product because seperate bump and rebound control can be what the sprinters and hillclimbers need.
The Gaz monotubes are now also highly regarded for those looking for that type of product.
Ive sold loads of S kits with very little trouble so dont understand the problem, perhaps a PM would help
Those who are looking for alternatives with more options could maybe consider the new Gaz TA product because seperate bump and rebound control can be what the sprinters and hillclimbers need.
The Gaz monotubes are now also highly regarded for those looking for that type of product.
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