New Road Tax Questions
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mphJ

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183 posts

165 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Just so we're clear, if i'm buying a car and go to look at it etc, I will need to phone them up and tax it before I can drive it home ? Also if the previous owner didn't have it taxed at all or it's SORN I still need to call up and tax it before driving it home ? Thanks

xRIEx

8,180 posts

178 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Strictly speaking yes, or do it online.

I can't see any way you'd get caught though if you did it when you got home.

Vipers

33,506 posts

258 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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xRIEx said:
Strictly speaking yes, or do it online.

I can't see any way you'd get caught though if you did it when you got home.
Unless your involved in a colision, could be nasty on insurance, driving an untaxed vehicle.

Just a rhought.




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Fox-

13,575 posts

276 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Vipers said:
Unless your involved in a colision, could be nasty on insurance, driving an untaxed vehicle.
Why?

Pcot

863 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Vipers said:
Unless your involved in a colision, could be nasty on insurance, driving an untaxed vehicle.

Just a rhought.




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And what exactly has an untaxed vehicle got to do with insurance?

Vipers

33,506 posts

258 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Pcot said:
Vipers said:
Unless your involved in a colision, could be nasty on insurance, driving an untaxed vehicle.

Just a rhought.




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And what exactly has an untaxed vehicle got to do with insurance?
I thought if insurances companies could wriggle out of a claim they will, and maybe being untaxed might be one. If not ignore this post, it was just a suggestion.

Then again, police involvement, fine maybe. Why chance it.


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Edited by Vipers on Tuesday 7th October 20:38

Bungleaio

6,587 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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It will be shown as taxed as the previous owner wouldn't have sent the V5 off to the DVLA yet, the V5 would be barely dry!

BobSaunders

3,110 posts

185 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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I always thought that insurance companies required a vehicle to be taxed (if required) or declared SORN, and mot'd (if required) to allow for insurance cover.


Pcot

863 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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If a car has no road tax then insurers are still obliged to pay out for all claims. Despite committing an offence by not having tax, this is irrelevant to the accident and the insurer. A car can legally be on the road without tax if it's going to a pre-booked MOT test - during which the insurance is not invalidated.


xRIEx

8,180 posts

178 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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BobSaunders said:
I always thought that insurance companies required a vehicle to be taxed (if required) ... to allow for insurance cover.
That would be a bit difficult as insurance cover is required to be in place before you can buy tax.

Ed.

2,176 posts

268 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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Vipers said:
Pcot said:
Vipers said:
Unless your involved in a colision, could be nasty on insurance, driving an untaxed vehicle.

Just a rhought.




smile
And what exactly has an untaxed vehicle got to do with insurance?
I thought if insurances companies could wriggle out of a claim they will, and maybe being untaxed might be one. If not ignore this post, it was just a suggestion.

Then again, police involvement, fine maybe. Why chance it.


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Edited by Vipers on Tuesday 7th October 20:38
I would agree with that, even if it does mean car buying should be done by lunchtime Saturday incase the site goes down again.

cptsideways

13,884 posts

282 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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xRIEx said:
BobSaunders said:
I always thought that insurance companies required a vehicle to be taxed (if required) ... to allow for insurance cover.
That would be a bit difficult as insurance cover is required to be in place before you can buy tax.
Incorrect, legally yes but you can "now" (new system) tax a car without insurance on the MID, seems a very backward step.

ianwayne

8,566 posts

298 months

Tuesday 7th October 2014
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That's the second time I've heard that you don't need insurance to tax a car. Are you sure? The reason you don't need your insurance certificate at the post office is because when they scan the V5 barcode, the database knows if the car has MoT and insurance. I doubt you can tax a car online without the car being insured.

In my experience, owners quite often retained and cashed in unused tax anyway before the discs were scrapped. There's nothing really new about all this, just the fact that there's no more discs.

As far as the OP goes, don't worry about it if the car has current tax. The unused tax is refunded to the owner when they process the paperwork at DVLA; they aren't psychic. That'll take a while. In fact, if I bought a car any time after about the 20th of the month, I wouldn't tax it before the 1st of the next month anyway. I've had cars untaxed for 3 weeks or more waiting for the V5 to come back and I've never been issued a letter from DVLA.

If the car is SORN, then nothing is new. You either negotiate taxing it before you drive home or risk it and drive it home with no tax. Make it a Sunday... wink

cptsideways

13,884 posts

282 months

Wednesday 8th October 2014
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https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...


1: at 10:42 in the above publication The DVLA system no longer requires a vehicle to be insured to apply for the new keepers tax! I thought that was the whole point...

ianwayne

8,566 posts

298 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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My ghast is flabbered by that. I read through the page and the DVLA officers state you only need insurance to tax a car in Northern Ireland now. This is very handy if you're doing a cherished number transfer I suppose.

It means anyone can tax a car, i.e. one you've just bought, and of course, after a few weeks, if it still isn't on the MIB as being insured, the registered keeper will be getting a letter! If a vehicle isn't SORN, it must be insured AND have valid VED.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Friday 10th October 2014
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cptsideways said:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...


1: at 10:42 in the above publication The DVLA system no longer requires a vehicle to be insured to apply for the new keepers tax! I thought that was the whole point...
However, under Continuous Insurance Enforcement - if it's taxed, it must be insured or the keeper can be issued with an extra DVLA invoice.

DVLA thinking - "no need to check. If it isn't insured we get the extra money!"