How come car dealers stock doesn't suffer depreciation?
How come car dealers stock doesn't suffer depreciation?
Author
Discussion

matjk

Original Poster:

1,112 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
I've been looking for a Lotus Evora for some time now, and as the pickings are very slim, and there's only ever about 40 cars up, I know all the adverts very well, over 4 months almost nothing new has come on and not much has sold, but not one single price has been reduced. Notice it with lots of other cars, they can remain on a forecourt for years but the price stays locked in. Does the forecourt have some magical property I don't know about, if so I think I will start parking my car on one, could save a fortune smile

750turbo

6,164 posts

254 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
Probably more to do with the car you are looking at to be honest.

Stock certainly does depreciate.

Klippie

3,608 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
I asked the very same question to a dealer last week, they had an 8 month old pre-reg 14 plate motor asking for strong money and wondered why they were offering me bottom book for my 18 month old car when the car they were selling was a grand too dear...I got know where so I walked out.


StottyEvo

6,860 posts

193 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
They do suffer depreciation.

I don't know about the Evora, but my mate bought an Exige S last year and they've risen in price. If the Evora's values are similar this would explain why the prices haven't been dropping.

Zyp

16,104 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
StottyEvo said:
They do suffer depreciation.

I don't know about the Evora, but my mate bought an Exige S last year and they've risen in price. If the Evora's values are similar this would explain why the prices haven't been dropping.
I bought an Exige in April 2011 and they are still the same price, if not a bit more, now!

Could've had 3+ years depreciation free motoring.... mad

itcaptainslow

4,780 posts

166 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
750turbo said:
Probably more to do with the car you are looking at to be honest.

Stock certainly does depreciate.
This.

One thing most Lotus cars do well is hold value.

Matt Harper

7,042 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
Interesting subject. How does this apply to new, unregistered vehicles that cover miles and miles of disused runways all over the world?

Many years ago, (early 80's) I had a short stint in new car sales at a large Vauxhall/Opel dealership in Leeds.

They had a field full of ex-works Cavaliers, Carltons and Royales (less so, Asconas, Mantas and Monzas) that they had in inventory for so long that 1) they were starting to rust and 2) had one or more price rises in them. So for all intents and purposes, these decaying cars were actually appreciating in value, while standing up to their door sills in muddy water, somewhere in Hunslet, West Yorks.

Probably not the case anymore, but this company had an enormous amount of dead stock on their books, however the commission paid on these cars was great, because it was based on what the dealer had in the car, which was a lot if the retail price had risen twice since it was delivered to them.

CarlT

3,424 posts

277 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
Matt Harper said:
Interesting subject. How does this apply to new, unregistered vehicles that cover miles and miles of disused runways all over the world?

Many years ago, (early 80's) I had a short stint in new car sales at a large Vauxhall/Opel dealership in Leeds.

They had a field full of ex-works Cavaliers, Carltons and Royales (less so, Asconas, Mantas and Monzas) that they had in inventory for so long that 1) they were starting to rust and 2) had one or more price rises in them. So for all intents and purposes, these decaying cars were actually appreciating in value, while standing up to their door sills in muddy water, somewhere in Hunslet, West Yorks.

Probably not the case anymore, but this company had an enormous amount of dead stock on their books, however the commission paid on these cars was great, because it was based on what the dealer had in the car, which was a lot if the retail price had risen twice since it was delivered to them.
Doesn't happen these days. End of...

LouD86

3,290 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th October 2014
quotequote all
CarlT said:
Doesn't happen these days. End of...
Agreed, a shame for commission, but its all about not having dead stock. Just in time building!

Matt Harper

7,042 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
CarlT said:
Doesn't happen these days. End of...
Oh - end of. That sounds pretty emphatic.

What about all these?



I've no doubt they are not on dealer's balance sheets just yet - but I suspect they sit around on that runway and many others for some time before they find their way onto the driveways of the UK - not long enough for a price increase or two?

ecsrobin

18,669 posts

195 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
Matt Harper said:
Oh - end of. That sounds pretty emphatic.

What about all these?



I've no doubt they are not on dealer's balance sheets just yet - but I suspect they sit around on that runway and many others for some time before they find their way onto the driveways of the UK - not long enough for a price increase or two?
Are they vauxhalls?

Butter Face

34,954 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
Matt Harper said:
CarlT said:
Doesn't happen these days. End of...
Oh - end of. That sounds pretty emphatic.

What about all these?



I've no doubt they are not on dealer's balance sheets just yet - but I suspect they sit around on that runway and many others for some time before they find their way onto the driveways of the UK - not long enough for a price increase or two?
Er, isn't that picture of the runway where all the cars given in under the Scrappage scheme were parked and left? rofl

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/No...

Zyp

16,104 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
Driving over the Avonmouth bridge by Portbury Docks you can see 1000's of cars sitting around.
That appears to be one massive storage compound.

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
Matt Harper said:
CarlT said:
Doesn't happen these days. End of...
Oh - end of. That sounds pretty emphatic.

What about all these?



I've no doubt they are not on dealer's balance sheets just yet - but I suspect they sit around on that runway and many others for some time before they find their way onto the driveways of the UK - not long enough for a price increase or two?
As commented by butterface already, but i'm going to repeat it because its worth repeating

THOSE WERE SCRAPPAGE CARS WAITING TO BE SCRAPPED

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/No...

Please, get your facts right before posting.

JakeThePeg

4,089 posts

152 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
Zyp said:
Driving over the Avonmouth bridge by Portbury Docks you can see 1000's of cars sitting around.
That appears to be one massive storage compound.
Depending on the brand, some for export, some are imported. I often see F Type R's, XJR, RRS's Evo X's, Focus/Fiesta ST's all lined up to be exported.

I think I even saw the new Mondeo (all be it in camo) the other week. Everyone looked at me odd when I said it.

Edited by JakeThePeg on Thursday 30th October 08:03

daemon

40,169 posts

227 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
Zyp said:
Driving over the Avonmouth bridge by Portbury Docks you can see 1000's of cars sitting around.
That appears to be one massive storage compound.
Given how many new cars are sold in the UK, it surely shouldnt come as a surprise that they're stored somewhere before sale / being prepared for sale?

Megaflow

11,549 posts

255 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
daemon said:
Matt Harper said:
CarlT said:
Doesn't happen these days. End of...
Oh - end of. That sounds pretty emphatic.

What about all these?



I've no doubt they are not on dealer's balance sheets just yet - but I suspect they sit around on that runway and many others for some time before they find their way onto the driveways of the UK - not long enough for a price increase or two?
As commented by butterface already, but i'm going to repeat it because its worth repeating

THOSE WERE SCRAPPAGE CARS WAITING TO BE SCRAPPED

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/No...

Please, get your facts right before posting.
What about this lot in Corby then?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Corby,+Northam...

madbadger

11,752 posts

274 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
daemon said:
Matt Harper said:
CarlT said:
Doesn't happen these days. End of...
Oh - end of. That sounds pretty emphatic.

What about all these?



I've no doubt they are not on dealer's balance sheets just yet - but I suspect they sit around on that runway and many others for some time before they find their way onto the driveways of the UK - not long enough for a price increase or two?
As commented by butterface already, but i'm going to repeat it because its worth repeating

THOSE WERE SCRAPPAGE CARS WAITING TO BE SCRAPPED

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/No...

Please, get your facts right before posting.
You can tell as the cars are coloured. if they were new that photo would look like it was in black and white.

Zyp

16,104 posts

219 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
daemon said:
Zyp said:
Driving over the Avonmouth bridge by Portbury Docks you can see 1000's of cars sitting around.
That appears to be one massive storage compound.
Given how many new cars are sold in the UK, it surely shouldnt come as a surprise that they're stored somewhere before sale / being prepared for sale?
Obviously that doesn't come as a surprise, I'm not completely thick you know.
But how long do those cars sit there?
A day, month, 6 months before finding a home?

limpsfield

6,675 posts

283 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
quotequote all
matjk said:
I've been looking for a Lotus Evora for some time now, and as the pickings are very slim, and there's only ever about 40 cars up, I know all the adverts very well, over 4 months almost nothing new has come on and not much has sold, but not one single price has been reduced. Notice it with lots of other cars, they can remain on a forecourt for years but the price stays locked in. Does the forecourt have some magical property I don't know about, if so I think I will start parking my car on one, could save a fortune smile
It's the car. had mine 2 years and 20,000 miles, and has only lost around 10%/15% based on current prices. Supply and demand