Car Scrapage 2009...ethnic cleansing...
Discussion
Under the Freedom of Information Act, the car scrapage listing for 2009 is now freely available. Whilst the majority deserved to be scrapped, there are some sad to see have succumbed to the Government Vehicle Ethnic Cleansing Scheme ala...how else can we boost car market sales and HMG's revenues...
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
this link will download the full car listing as a csv file
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Some Alfa, Lancia and Porsche fans should take a large cognac before reading...
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
this link will download the full car listing as a csv file
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Some Alfa, Lancia and Porsche fans should take a large cognac before reading...
The availability of data relating to the scrapage scheme has generated a few headlines recently. To be honest I don’t understand what the excitement is about.
As classic owners surely we respect diversity, individuality of choice and each to their own. The "Classics Left to Die" thread is the most popular thread on this forum, I don’t think many of us read that with our heads held in despair and equally we should not be surprised that for many people that the decision to scrap was driven the head rather than the heart.
Related to this, I’m not sure that we are going to see classics from the last decade and the next develop in the same way as those of decades gone by. The increased sophistication of vehicle specification combined with three figure labour rates from many repair outlets I feel is going to drive a greater proportion of vehicles to an early grave with electronics taking over from rust as the greatest killer. I often glance at transporters of precariously held down scrap, 51-54 plate cars are a common sight.
On the plus side, those of us who cherish our classics will continue to do so and the scrapage scheme came and went without any influence at all.
As classic owners surely we respect diversity, individuality of choice and each to their own. The "Classics Left to Die" thread is the most popular thread on this forum, I don’t think many of us read that with our heads held in despair and equally we should not be surprised that for many people that the decision to scrap was driven the head rather than the heart.
Related to this, I’m not sure that we are going to see classics from the last decade and the next develop in the same way as those of decades gone by. The increased sophistication of vehicle specification combined with three figure labour rates from many repair outlets I feel is going to drive a greater proportion of vehicles to an early grave with electronics taking over from rust as the greatest killer. I often glance at transporters of precariously held down scrap, 51-54 plate cars are a common sight.
On the plus side, those of us who cherish our classics will continue to do so and the scrapage scheme came and went without any influence at all.
The hysteria has gone far too far when terms like 'ethnic cleansing' start being applied to such an erroneous issue.
There will always be frothers around this subject because it is political and those with issues can use it to rile against whichever group it is that they vent their anger and transfer their personal issues into.
But let's not pay too much head to the rankings of the damaged and weak.
Almost all the cars that were scrapped were worthless junk. Almost all the cars that were bought as a result were worthless junk. The scrapage scheme was essentially a 'pooh exchange' with the key ingredient being either the creation of credit or the extraction of cash from pensioners.
It is a shame that it covered all makes on the buy side but it really doesn't matter what was scrapped. There are plenty of examples left that are owned by people who actually want to preserve them and have the means to do so. But look back to 2008 and what was happening and there is absolutely no doubt that schemes to get groups spending were genuinely essential. It was catagorically the right thing.
Let's look at it another way, if these various schemes had not been put in place then the majority of businesses which keep all our cars on the road would have shut down because of the halting of M0 cash flow in the economy. Essentially tooling would have been scrapped and people would not have had the money to restore cars.
So in short, every single car that was scrapped generated essential cash movement in an economy where cash flow had actually nearly halted. Very many classic cars and associated businesses only exist in 2014 because of the rapid implementation of various schemes at the zenith of the credit crunch that managed to keep flow within the domestic economy.
There will always be frothers around this subject because it is political and those with issues can use it to rile against whichever group it is that they vent their anger and transfer their personal issues into.
But let's not pay too much head to the rankings of the damaged and weak.
Almost all the cars that were scrapped were worthless junk. Almost all the cars that were bought as a result were worthless junk. The scrapage scheme was essentially a 'pooh exchange' with the key ingredient being either the creation of credit or the extraction of cash from pensioners.
It is a shame that it covered all makes on the buy side but it really doesn't matter what was scrapped. There are plenty of examples left that are owned by people who actually want to preserve them and have the means to do so. But look back to 2008 and what was happening and there is absolutely no doubt that schemes to get groups spending were genuinely essential. It was catagorically the right thing.
Let's look at it another way, if these various schemes had not been put in place then the majority of businesses which keep all our cars on the road would have shut down because of the halting of M0 cash flow in the economy. Essentially tooling would have been scrapped and people would not have had the money to restore cars.
So in short, every single car that was scrapped generated essential cash movement in an economy where cash flow had actually nearly halted. Very many classic cars and associated businesses only exist in 2014 because of the rapid implementation of various schemes at the zenith of the credit crunch that managed to keep flow within the domestic economy.
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