Why do engines have a seperate cylinder head ?
Why do engines have a seperate cylinder head ?
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robinessex

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12,020 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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It's been done in the past. Integral cyl block. Brian Hart, turbo F1 4 cyl engine. https://www.highpowermedia.com/blog/3117/the-monob... Has many advantages. Cheaper, easier to sort inlet and exhaust tracs, no head gasket, no cyl head bolts, lighter, more rigid engine, better coolant flow etc.

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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if it was cheaper, they would be doing it

glazbagun

15,376 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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British Leyland made a bus (the 510) with an integral head. From wiki:

"The Leyland 510 engine had an unusual design, in that it featured non-detachable cylinder heads; any work on the valves required the crankshaft and pistons to be removed to enable access from the cylinder bore"

Seems like a nice idea, poorly executed.

http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/facts-and-figures/...



Edited by glazbagun on Monday 3rd November 22:42

jmcc500

679 posts

248 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Hard to manufacture, particulalrly to required tolerances I suspect. I believe old Bugattis had monoblock construction, but a separate head allows machining tolerances to be compensated for with graded head gaskets.

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Simply put, it's astonishingly complex (and therefore prohibitively expensive) to mass-produce a monoblock engine. Purely in terms of machining/finishing access you can see how much more difficult it becomes, but you also lose a lot of opportunity to correct for small imperfections. Serviceability also becomes a nightmare.

Additionally, modern engine designs are very modular to allow interchangeability of parts or at least similar castings for different capacities etc. and this would get a lot more difficult with a monoblock approach.

Since the block/head format is so highly evolved, it would be a brave OEM who tried to do anything different..

skyrover

12,700 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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glazbagun said:
Seems like a nice idea, poorly executed.
The British car industry in a nutshell

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Suspect if/when 3d printing gets into mass production for this stuff we will see it happen more.

Searider

1,005 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Steyr have been doing this for some time.

http://www.steyr-motors.com/automotive/

glazbagun

15,376 posts

227 months

Tuesday 4th November 2014
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The Lotus Omnivore was a monobloc too. I wonder if they ever made any money from it?

http://jalopnik.com/5160933/lotus-completes-omnivo...