Looking for a Manual Rack
Looking for a Manual Rack
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crosseyedlion

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Anyone got one about?

Will be selling off the PAS system from mine too.

But most important is that I find a rack.

phazed

22,466 posts

233 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Why oh why. Please tell?

slippery

14,093 posts

268 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Because PAS makes the Chimaera less of a true driver's car. wink

AceOfHearts

5,956 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Nothing wrong with a manual rack smile

crosseyedlion

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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I'm building a racer.

Can't be doing with all that power sapping and extra weight :P

Also, I'm aware that the PAS system on mine is worth a good sum.

ChimpOnGas

9,637 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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slippery said:
Because PAS makes the Chimaera less of a true driver's car. wink
Well I've driven both and I'd have PAS over a manual rack every time, and not just for the substantially easier low speed maneuverability.

The PAS rack is the faster geared rack of the two, that combined with zero loss of feel compared with the manual rack and PAS is actually the sportier choice.

Having driven both, my experience is the PAS rack gives the Chimaera a sharper feel at the wheel and allows faster corrections, the fact it turns parking from painful to a piece of cake is just a nice bonus.

Horses for courses and all that, but personally I would never remove my PAS to replace it with the slower manual rack.

Just my opinion you understand, but is based on having extensively driven both options wink

phazed

22,466 posts

233 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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You'll regret it !

keep the PS, fit an electric pump and enjoy the drive.

manual is poor, manual with wide tyres is appaling.


A professional racer drove my old chim before PS and said it was dire. So heavy that he couldn't correct it when it broke into a slide, that's with Triple 8s.

Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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AceOfHearts said:
Nothing wrong with a manual rack smile
A large natural rack is my favourite.

crosseyedlion

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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hmmm, maybe I should get myself a citroen saxo pas pump...will ponder.

wuckfitracing

991 posts

172 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Ive got a spare manual rack. Id swap it for a PAS rack.

phazed

22,466 posts

233 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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crosseyedlion said:
hmmm, maybe I should get myself a citroen saxo pas pump...will ponder.
Got a 106 one on the 5.5 and had a Vectra one on the 4.6.

Alexdaredevils

5,697 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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phazed said:
Got a 106 one on the 5.5 and had a Vectra one on the 4.6.
Which one was lighter?

phazed

22,466 posts

233 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Alexdaredevils said:
Which one was lighter?
not much in it, i think the 206 is easier to fit.

Hedgehopper

1,542 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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ChimpOnGas said:
Having driven both, my experience is the PAS rack gives the Chimaera a sharper feel at the wheel and allows faster corrections, the fact it turns parking from painful to a piece of cake is just a nice bonus.
In a nutshell!

phazed

22,466 posts

233 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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I fitted PS to my chim several years ago and it was a revelation.

It developed a bit of play and having a week off with a Ring trip planed I foolishly fitted the manual rack the day before setting out.

The weather was fantastic, the a Ring brilliant and we clocked up about 1,500 miles in the week.

I can honestly say that every driving moment I regretted fitting the manual rack. I had more feel in my 1965 Austin 1100!

On the plus side, if you want to loose weight and do track days you'll be onto a winner. I reckon you'll loose about half a pound a session, downside is you'll be sweating like a pig.

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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crosseyedlion said:
hmmm, maybe I should get myself a citroen saxo pas pump...will ponder.
if your running class C check with JR first. class C chims are supposed to be a standard class :-0

crosseyedlion

Original Poster:

2,381 posts

227 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Graham said:
if your running class C check with JR first. class C chims are supposed to be a standard class :-0
Good Point!

Sod it, i'll leave it be for now.