Setting up a breakers yard
Setting up a breakers yard
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Roadhog123

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5 posts

143 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Hi folks, just been given the chance of a commercial unit to break cars. Was just wondering if anyone has advice on what is needed to set up a ATF properly. Envviroment angency are not really no help what ever, thankyou in advance

littlebasher

3,967 posts

201 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Can't help with the points you mentioned, but you will need a couple of really big dogs!

fathomfive

11,235 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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littlebasher said:
Can't help with the points you mentioned, but you will need a couple of really big dogs!
Big, oily dogs.

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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You will need a site licence from your local authority issued under the Scrap Metal Dealers Act 2013.

Contact the licensing department at your local council and they will talk you through the application procedure. You and any partners (and a site manager if thats a different person) will need basic CRB disclosures and you'll need to ensure that you have planning permission to operate a breakers yard from the premise.

Some more info on our website below, but different authorities have different requirements, so please don't just use our application form!

http://www.tameside.gov.uk/licensing/scrapmetal

motco

17,647 posts

276 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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fathomfive said:
littlebasher said:
Can't help with the points you mentioned, but you will need a couple of really big dogs!
Big, oily dogs.
Big, shaggy, oily, alsatians with barks that sound like sealions!

Roadhog123

Original Poster:

5 posts

143 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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R U Local thanks for the info, do you no criteria as to what i would need such as four post ramp and bunded tanks ete

Roadhog123

Original Poster:

5 posts

143 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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R U Local thanks for the info, do you no criteria as to what i would need such as four post ramp and bunded tanks ete

marting

668 posts

204 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Try not to buy unusual looking stuff for scrap - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

238 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Roadhog123 said:
R U Local thanks for the info, do you no criteria as to what i would need such as four post ramp and bunded tanks ete
Your local authority won't be interested in how you actually operate, other than ensuring that you have clear procedures in place for disposing of oils, fuels etc. and your premises will need to be on a hard standing to ensure nothing can leak into the ground water.

As for how you actually break the cars, thats up to you, but best advice is to break the vehicles yourself and sell the parts from stock, as public liability insurance for the traditional old fashioned "remove the parts yourself" breakers yards is now very expensive. Best to keep your customers well away from your vehicles and sell parts over the counter.

andymc

7,624 posts

237 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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A bottle of scotch for the top drawer, seriously is it a really good idea if you're asking on a forum?? you need a back ground in it I'd assume

JustinF

6,795 posts

233 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Scrap prices are crap right now, £60 a ton, might not be a bad time to get into the trade if you can afford to sit on stock for a couple of years.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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If you're actually breaking the cars yourself and not just dealing with metal/parts then you'll probably need an Environmental Permit for a vehicle depollution facility. These come with a stload of requirements for the site and its operation.

As above, you'll also need to register as a scrap metal dealer, waste carrier's licence, etc.

Edit: Depending on the activities, you can get a "Standard Rules" permit, in which case you're bound by a specific set of rules for the site. See here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/sr2012-...

Edited by Symbolica on Thursday 6th November 20:25

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

153 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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A criminal record ?

Migx

791 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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marting said:
Try not to buy unusual looking stuff for scrap - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
my ex was from Goiania. that might explain a few things.... 9 years after i finally understand.

RobinBanks

17,550 posts

209 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Flatbed Ford Transit and some 'friends' who work for telephone/electric/railway/electric companies.

Roadhog123

Original Poster:

5 posts

143 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Symbolica thanks for your advice much appreciated

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

238 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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fathomfive said:
littlebasher said:
Can't help with the points you mentioned, but you will need a couple of really big dogs!
Big, oily dogs.
I think you'll find that the correct term is dags.

D'y loik dags?

Veeayt

3,139 posts

235 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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I'm running such thing, albeit in different country. Apart from the space and shelves in which to put parts, you'll need a good database for your parts and at least a couple of people who are permanently engaged with making ads for online shops, local newspapers etc etc etc. If you need to know something particular, I'd be happy to help.

Beer Man

249 posts

144 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Dags, sheepskin coat with a pocket ful of 50s, rancid old Portakabin, red 1970s Jag XJ

Sorted.

DaveyBoyWonder

3,933 posts

204 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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marting said:
Try not to buy unusual looking stuff for scrap - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
Sounds like a right comedy of errors. Carting radiactive material around in wheelbarrows and:

"On September 13, 1987, the guard in charge of daytime security, Voudireinão da Silva, did not show up to work, using a sick day to attend a cinema screening of Herbie Goes Bananas with his family"

Good film...