RE: Porsche 964 Targa: You Know You Want To
RE: Porsche 964 Targa: You Know You Want To
Thursday 6th November 2014

Porsche 964 Targa: You Know You Want To

Or, perhaps more accurately, you hadn't realised you wanted to... Now could be the time though



The greatest gift the 991 Targa may bestow upon the original 1965 car that inspired it is an upswell of interest in equivalent 911s of all generations. PH has been out and about in the new car this week and from Sunday Service to the daily commute the approval rating would appear to be through the (retractable) roof. And it would seem this is having a knock-on effect on the previously unloved (at least by 911 snobs) older examples too.

Coupe? You're looking at £40K for this
Coupe? You're looking at £40K for this
The 993, 996 and 997 versions effectively just had very big sunroofs so to go back to the ‘roll hoop’ style inspired by the original car it’s 964 or older. And two cars for sale at Porsche specialists RPM Technik offer some insight into the Targa awakening and why now might be the time to act if you thought a removable roof panel was the route to a bargain 964.

A 1990 Guards Red Carrera 2 coupe in original condition is up for just shy of £40K, RPM’s Darren Anderson advising that mid to low 30s is now absolute entry level for such cars. So £26,995 for a recently overhauled 1993 Carrera 4 Targa from the same outfit appears on paper like a bit of a bargain, especially if you’re looking for a 964 for occasional road use rather than an RS-chasing coupe wannabe. Another Guards Red car, a 1990 Carrera 2 Targa with Phil Raby Porsche at £20,995, also suggests that going for a Targa could remain the affordable route to 964 ownership just as interest in the new car starts pushing values up.

Superficially similar Targa just sold for £27K
Superficially similar Targa just sold for £27K
“There is an interest in Targas that wasn’t there 12 months ago,” says Darren. “That circa £5K difference between coupes and Targas was probably about the same when they were 20 grand and it’s relatively closer now but with the renewed interest there is still some movement to be had in Targas.” Chatting with Autofarm off the back of our loan with its backdated 911 SC reveals a similar increase in interest in the 60s and 70s Targas too, these cars now on the radar of those priced out of equivalent coupes and reassured by the validation of the 991’s styling cues.

Back to 964s Darren advises caution though, saying the price differential between two comparable examples would be a relatively modest saving of around five to six grand for the Targa over an equivalent coupe. He describes valuing 964s as a tricky business, given the variables in condition and history and fact that a superficially attractive car could require a five-figure sum to bring it up to standard. His advice? Get an inspection and go through the history with a fine tooth comb.

Referencing original Targa a win-win for Porsche
Referencing original Targa a win-win for Porsche
If nothing else the new Targa has helped make older ones an acceptable choice for those who might otherwise have held out for a coupe. And means now could be the time if your interest has been awakened.

 

 

 



PORSCHE 911 TARGA (964)
Price:
  Roughly five grand less than an equivalent coupe
Why you should: Socially acceptable off the back of the 991 and still usefully cheaper than coupe equivalents; prices on the up
Why you shouldn’t: If you were after a real bargain you’ve probably already missed the boat

 

Lead photo: Roo Fowler

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Discussion

ess

Original Poster:

801 posts

208 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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What a difference a couple of years make.

Was looking at 964's in 2012 versus the Z4MC.
Cabs and Targas at £12; Coupes not that much more.

20k seems to be the start price for any model in the classifieds.

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Oddball RS

1,757 posts

248 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Must be me, I like the Targa's

justboxsters

135 posts

196 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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i was offered a baltic blue '91 coupe in 2009 for £8000.


DAAAAM!!!!

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Sacrilege I know - bit I really dig the 996 Targa. Really nice car to be in and they are always loaded. Cheap as well.

v8250

2,747 posts

241 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Oddball RS said:
Must be me, I like the Targa's
Nope, not just you. The 911 Targa is a wonderful design. Had a 3.0 SC Sports Targa some years ago, a wonderful all round toy.

Spekkie

21 posts

162 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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964 is my favourite 911
Not only for the looks but also the sound of the engine.... best ever!

Fetchez la vache

5,907 posts

244 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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ess said:
What a difference a couple of years make.
They've definitely been on the up for a while.
Love the Targas, always have.

unpc

2,999 posts

243 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Nope. Don't want to. The shape of the roof is the only thing I like about 911s and the Targa and Cab ruin this.

soad

34,686 posts

206 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Coupe looks the best. cool






pSyCoSiS

4,324 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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I think in the new 991 form, it looks rather lovely!

daytona365

1,773 posts

194 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Sorry. The 964 looks absolutely 'right' as a targa. The 991...................doesn't. Sorry, but this statement is not open to any debate.

kambites

71,562 posts

251 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Are they reasonably water-tight?

Macboy

784 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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You know you....don't want to as far as I am concerned.

The Targa, especially in its current form but in many of its earlier incarnations is inherently flawed despite what might be thought of by some as a certain retro "style". Roof off, and especially roof off and windows down, the amount of interior turbulence is ridiculous. The air coming into the cabin has nowhere to go but back into the path of more incoming air after it hits the back window and flows forward. I found the 964 a horrible in-cabin experience and had exactly the same experience in a Bentley Continental SC that made me feel like I had my head in a dustbin with a fully running leaf blower. There's a reason in my view, and not just aesthetics, why a coupe is more money yet still the one to buy.

daytona365

1,773 posts

194 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Even on a thirty year old car, yes. All the benefits of a convertible with none of the problems.

crostonian

2,427 posts

202 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Wonder what a 964 Targa would look like with the roll hoop in a brushed steel finish as on the 991 and the original Targas? For the price saving over a Coupe I would consider one, whereas I wouldn't have a Cab with their ill fitting leaky roofs, poor rear visibility and Silver Cross looks with the roof folded.

daveco

4,412 posts

237 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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daytona365 said:
Sorry. The 964 looks absolutely 'right' as a targa. The 991...................doesn't. Sorry, but this statement is not open to any debate.
I'd have to disagree. Forcefully if necessary.

deltashad

6,731 posts

227 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Is there storage for the hardtop if you're on the move?
They've grown on me over the last few years, the New model looks better than the coupe.

GranCab

2,914 posts

176 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Creaky, leaky and ugly .....

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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I am not a fan of the Targa looks, compromised form over compromised function IMO !!!

The only 964 that looks good to my eyes is the Turbo, even that could be heavily biased by watching Bad Boys too many times at a young and influential age ;-)

Bluebottle911

815 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Spekkie said:
964 is my favourite 911
Not only for the looks but also the sound of the engine.... best ever!
You are clearly a man of perspicacity and good judgement.