Surely Audi R8's are being clocked
Surely Audi R8's are being clocked
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IATM

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3,948 posts

178 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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I have always loved the R8 and hope one day to have one and me being a total freak - I am on autotrader and ebay looking at cars atleast 30 minutes ( prob more) a day.

I find it so odd that the allllll the R8's available are such low millage. There are only a handful over 50k and I mean a handful.

Surely they must be being clocked. I know people are going to say well most people have it as a second car etc etc but even then I find it very very hard to beleive that all the R8's available just so happen to be such low millage.

Am I being paranoid?

starmonkey

295 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Compare them to similar type of cars like Gallardos or F430s and they're all relatively low mileage. They are mainly second cars/weekend toys.


Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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We see lots, some in for service some in the faults etc. They all seem to go up the correct ammount between visits. Highest milage one I have seen is 40 odd k.

Think its the norm for that type of thing.

Dont know if you would want one with 50,000 miles plus on it.


n4aat

471 posts

243 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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I think you would be surprised how many high end cars get clocked.

IATM

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3,948 posts

178 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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I really think that is the case. Someone mentioned the f430 and lambo. I have read everywhere without a shadow of a doubt they will be clocked so to make sure to buy on condition.

I think the other poster hit the nail on the head with the statement - I don't you would want one with 50k+ mileage on an r8 and its with this I feel people just clock them.

Big shame.

AyBee

11,354 posts

233 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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I really don't understand why people think 50k miles is high - it's the same with Lotus'.

IATM

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Friday 7th November 2014
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AyBee said:
I really don't understand why people think 50k miles is high - it's the same with Lotus'.
Totally agree with you, I don't think anyone thinks its high if I am honest but the trouble is people want to preserve the value of their cars. For the last two years I have never seen an R8 tip below £40k.

To preverse this price the millage needs to be low. If an R8 has 40k miles plus then people will want it for 30-35k.

At £40k why would someone buy a car showing 40k miles over a car showing 20k miles.


nw28840

1,009 posts

210 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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blueg33

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255 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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AyBee said:
I really don't understand why people think 50k miles is high - it's the same with Lotus'.
My Evora is on 50k miles and does about 20k miles pa with me. No issues whatsoever. In fact I tent to feel that a higher mileage car is more likley to have had issues sorted. Every new car I have had has had the bulk of problems within the first 15-20k miles after that its just wear and tear and most cnumables are designed to be replace quite easily (Evora clutch excluded)

I have also found that modern cars start to show their age at well over 100k miles but not really before


Nedzilla

2,439 posts

205 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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I bought a 2008 R8 in spring this year with only 16k on the clock. As already said they are usually a second car for most snd rarely used. The service history and mots with mine suggest that the mileage is legit as is the condition of the car.
I viewed quite a few and wear on the drivers seat bolster is a good indication of use.
Despite not using mine in the day for work purposes I have already put another 5k miles on it. They are a great car to drive so thats exactly what im going to do with it.

Dr G

16,005 posts

273 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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AyBee said:
I really don't understand why people think 50k miles is high - it's the same with Lotus'.
Done a couple of miley ones, only notable issues were dampers and a bit of leather wear. Strong cars.

daemon

40,169 posts

228 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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n4aat said:
I think you would be surprised how many high end cars get clocked.
Really?

If i were buying a high end car like an R8 or Ferrari or Lambo, i'd be expecting to see a meticulous, cast iron, fully documented, and traceable service history and i'd buy it from a reputable source.

I would have thought most people would be the same?

IATM

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Friday 7th November 2014
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daemon said:
Really?

If i were buying a high end car like an R8 or Ferrari or Lambo, i'd be expecting to see a meticulous, cast iron, fully documented, and traceable service history and i'd buy it from a reputable source.

I would have thought most people would be the same?
Yes without a shadow of a doubt you will get that with almost all of the cars available however it doesn't change the fact that they are clocked not once but each time they go in before a service.

I know it sounds crazy as I thought it didn't even exist anymore except on older cars but I used to work with a girl around 6 years ago who said she used to lease brand new golf gti's at the time under a very low annual mileage and before each service would get the car clocked to show much lower millage.

IATM

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Friday 7th November 2014
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nw28840 said:
High miles, but well under £40k :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-R8-4-2-FSI-QUATTRO-...
I wouldn't call that well under. Buy an r8 with 75k on the clock or a similar one for 41-43k with only 20-30k on the clock
No brainer really.

I am sure that will be around for a whhhillllleeeeee

Edited by IATM on Friday 7th November 13:55

Blaster72

12,715 posts

228 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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It's 3k under 40k so is well under. The adjustment for mileage seems right to me and equates to around 10% of the cars value.

daemon

40,169 posts

228 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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IATM said:
Yes without a shadow of a doubt you will get that with almost all of the cars available however it doesn't change the fact that they are clocked not once but each time they go in before a service.

I know it sounds crazy as I thought it didn't even exist anymore except on older cars but I used to work with a girl around 6 years ago who said she used to lease brand new golf gti's at the time under a very low annual mileage and before each service would get the car clocked to show much lower millage.
So your evidence for most Lambos and R8's being clocked is you once worked with a girl who clocked her golf?



AyBee

11,354 posts

233 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Dr G said:
AyBee said:
I really don't understand why people think 50k miles is high - it's the same with Lotus'.
Done a couple of miley ones, only notable issues were dampers and a bit of leather wear. Strong cars.
But a lot of them have had the suspension replaced in those miles and yet there is still a stigma about 50k miles. It's not just 50k miles though, if you want to keep a car for 2 years at 5k p.a., you end up over 50k miles so those who want to do that mileage want cars at 30k so they can sell before 50k - ridiculous! Buy on condition, not mileage smile I'd happily buy a R8 on 70k miles if it had the history to accompany it smile How easy is it to clock cars these days?

tomjol

532 posts

148 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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Brother in law has one. They also have two BMWs and a Benz.

In the six months since he bought it, I've only seen it anywhere other than "parked on the drive" on a single occasion.

IATM

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178 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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daemon said:
IATM said:
Yes without a shadow of a doubt you will get that with almost all of the cars available however it doesn't change the fact that they are clocked not once but each time they go in before a service.

I know it sounds crazy as I thought it didn't even exist anymore except on older cars but I used to work with a girl around 6 years ago who said she used to lease brand new golf gti's at the time under a very low annual mileage and before each service would get the car clocked to show much lower millage.
So your evidence for most Lambos and R8's being clocked is you once worked with a girl who clocked her golf?
Read the whole thread.

daemon

40,169 posts

228 months

Friday 7th November 2014
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IATM said:
daemon said:
IATM said:
Yes without a shadow of a doubt you will get that with almost all of the cars available however it doesn't change the fact that they are clocked not once but each time they go in before a service.

I know it sounds crazy as I thought it didn't even exist anymore except on older cars but I used to work with a girl around 6 years ago who said she used to lease brand new golf gti's at the time under a very low annual mileage and before each service would get the car clocked to show much lower millage.
So your evidence for most Lambos and R8's being clocked is you once worked with a girl who clocked her golf?
Read the whole thread.
Just re-read it, and to answer your original question "am i being paranoid?". Yes. You are.