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Mad Mark

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2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Can anyone tell me what was done to the Cerbera to make it a 'lightweight'?
The reason i ask, is, because i've not long bought a factory developments model and seam to have a lightweight bonnet compared to other Cerbera's, and was wondering what other bits might be 'lightweight'.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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If you do a search, you'll get your answer. But in the meantime, I don't think there is any difference between the bonnets but the LW has less soundproofing and other bits saving a grand total of about 30kg. They also have no sun visors and the 'stacked' lights as opposed to the standard lighting.

Someone (SXS) will be along shortly to correct me, no doubt............

_DeeJay_

5,057 posts

283 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Mad Mark said:
Can anyone tell me what was done to the Cerbera to make it a 'lightweight'?
The reason i ask, is, because i've not long bought a factory developments model and seam to have a lightweight bonnet compared to other Cerbera's, and was wondering what other bits might be 'lightweight'.


Your car certainly looks interesting - a '96 4.5!
There's a Griff on PH that is similar. I wonder what spec the engine is, Red Rose perhaps?


>> Edited by _DeeJay_ on Wednesday 29th December 15:49

Tripps

5,814 posts

301 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Tuscan-style seats as well (or were they part of the late 2001 revisions?), which look better IMO, although I'm not sure the side bolsters will stand the test of time...

t8rus

210 posts

288 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Hi mark nice to see there's another cerb in romford. You'll have to come up to the next mid essex meet 2nd sunday of the month. Then you'll be able to compare oily bits and bobs, and see what's different on yours.

Mad Mark

Original Poster:

2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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The cars just come out of the factory, along with a few others, probably Nicoly Smolenski (or however you spell it??) was having a clearout.

Ray (yellow Peril) lifted my bonnet the other weakend at the Mid Essex meet and was supprised how light it was, so i compared it with some others and found it a lot lighter. So started to wonder what else might be lighter.

As for the seats i don't think the side bolsters will take much punishment, but 'cos i'm only little i dont think they'll suffer too much.

A Red Rose engine spec would be nice but i dont think i'll be that lucky, but it does seem to have a larger engine air intake in the 'mouth' than others i've seen?? you can only just make it out in the pic. almost the whole width of the bonnet.

Mad Mark

Original Poster:

2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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t8rus said:
Hi mark nice to see there's another cerb in romford. You'll have to come up to the next mid essex meet 2nd sunday of the month. Then you'll be able to compare oily bits and bobs, and see what's different on yours.


That would be good, I've been up there 3 or 4 times so far, last month was in my Cerb, but before that it was with my red 350I.
We'll have to get together and go up in convoy

Phil Dicky

7,194 posts

292 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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_DeeJay_ said:

Mad Mark said:
Can anyone tell me what was done to the Cerbera to make it a 'lightweight'?
The reason i ask, is, because i've not long bought a factory developments model and seam to have a lightweight bonnet compared to other Cerbera's, and was wondering what other bits might be 'lightweight'.



Your car certainly looks interesting - a '96 4.5!
There's a Griff on PH that is similar. I wonder what spec the engine is, Red Rose perhaps?


>> Edited by _DeeJay_ on Wednesday 29th December 15:49


Looks very interesting and looking at your profile a bit of bargain for what you have got. Would be worth keeping as much documentation as you can find (plus any you can get from Blackpool) would help with verification come time to sell.

Phil

davetherave1970

2,144 posts

275 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Mad Mark said:
but it does seem to have a larger engine air intake in the 'mouth' than others i've seen?? you can only just make it out in the pic. almost the whole width of the bonnet.
Just checked mine and you're right, it is much larger.
Very nice Mark, look after it!

Mad Mark

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2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Thanks guys,

Does anyone know any people at the factory who I could get in touch with that may be able to help find out exactly what has been done to her?

Also unless i'm mistaken, normally the oil cooler is usually on the left hand side, well, mine is in the middle behind the number plate The only reason i can think of is to allow the oil to warm up quicker by blocking 'some' of the air flow to it at lower speeds

darreni

4,513 posts

299 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Any engine pics/ interior shots?
See if we can spot any other diffrences.
Lovely car, looks in great shape.

Darren.

Mad Mark

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2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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I've got no interior shots worth posting.
This is the best engine pic that i've got. I have noticed a couple of differences ...
1. The beauty cover looks different to the others i've seen.
2. Strange heat sheild looking patches on either side of the bay?
3. Unless i'm mistaken, should there not be an air con pump or something here. I,ve got the switch and the blue sweet LED, but not sure about the air con itself.

Thanks again for all your help and interest

tvrinbfg

1,460 posts

313 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Doesn't the Lightweight model use the "honeycomb" fibreglass, have a lighter rollcage allowing better visability, Tuscan seats, and the "fisheye" lights. I seem to recall that the LW car was suppose to be 80kgs lighter than a standard 4.5, but the 30kgs mentioned above is probably more likely.

The green 96/N car was offerred around the dealers a while back (Jun/Jul) on 16" alloys (so it's got new 18" alloys and tyres?), but the head gasket was blowing/on its way out or something (so I guess it has been repaired). I understood that it's been repainted at some point in the last three years and had a new full leather interior installed in the last two years. During which period it has not covered many miles. So all told it looks like you've got a nice spec and sorted car.

carl_w

10,730 posts

287 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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(1) and (2) look the same as mine, FWIW.

Mad Mark

Original Poster:

2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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So let me get this straight, "The green 96/N car" that you refer to, was this supposed to be an early lightweight?
If so are you proposing that this could be it?
I was told that mine had 'recently' been re trimmed when the Tuscan style seats were fitted. I'm guessing (a wild guess) then that the wheels were also fitted very recently because the tyres 255 and 235 x 18" (i think) were brand new.

Mad Mark

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2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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carl_w said:
(1) and (2) look the same as mine, FWIW.


Thanks.
The (1's) that i have seen look more'open' presumably to let more air out, possibly on the later models.

Mad Mark

Original Poster:

2,345 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2004
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Just looked at your car Carl, it looks nice in black, you dont see many black ones.

tvrinbfg

1,460 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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Hi MM - The LW bodies came out in late 99, so I don't think your car is. However, your car is one of the first Cerberas made, so its bodywork could be different to 1996 on wards Cerbs.

Mad Mark

Original Poster:

2,345 posts

261 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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Hi tvrinbfg
I wasn't sudjesting that my Cerb was a lightweight, but your post did get me confused (it doesn't take much ) What i was thinking is that maybe some parts of my car had been replaced with L.W. parts by the factory.
I was told that it had the Red Rose suspension fitted, but don't know how to verify this.?

How do you know so much about this "green 96/N car"?
Here's a couple of interior pics, the only difference i can spot is the heater controls.


SXS 

2,068 posts

269 months

Thursday 30th December 2004
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This one looks awefully similar to the 4.7 they did for a few very persistent customers...

But didnt have any 4.7 badges etc...

Whats the engine number? email it to me, I'll run it through and see what info I can get for you tomorrow.

(It could also be a 4.2 that had an engine failure leading to a 4.5 upgrade instead... chassis number and engine number please! I'm curious)

>> Edited by SXS  on Thursday 30th December 21:52