Not sure if true, but music in the toilet needed - HELP
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I'm utterly lost on this one, but a fella I work with (and trust) is asking me to help out.
ALLEGEDLY
He has an eccentric millionaire client that wants music in his toilet. I haven't been there (yet) so I cannot comment on the house or person.
Allegedly, this fella has a 'toilet' room with a (big?) mural of Venice painted on the wall.
Allegedly he wants to walk/squat/crawl in there and hear music and the sounds of Venice (WTF are the sounds of Venice?)
If this proves to be true, I promise you lot that I'll write it up and post photos, like the vernacular railway.
Allegedly this gentleman has more money than sense, but I need to find a way of getting music to play in this space when he/she/anyone attends the call of nature.
The requirements boil down to this;
1. Music starts when you enter the thrown room
2. Music stops when you leave the thrown room
3. THE BIGGY - Different music when you enter next time - can't start at the beginning!
I think we can pull a start stop from the light switch, but we absolutely need to have the music on a loop, (allegedly) he's said he doesn't want to hear the same music/s
t (plop plop plop?) every time time he takes a dump/piss.
So I need some help!
A music player that runs 24/7 looping (he doesn't want to hear the same tune every time), the toilet light that on activation turns on the loud speaker, and when one leaves turns it off.
I'm astonished that someone would want this, even more astonished that I might get to work on it.
Any ideas?
Thanks
ALLEGEDLY
He has an eccentric millionaire client that wants music in his toilet. I haven't been there (yet) so I cannot comment on the house or person.
Allegedly, this fella has a 'toilet' room with a (big?) mural of Venice painted on the wall.
Allegedly he wants to walk/squat/crawl in there and hear music and the sounds of Venice (WTF are the sounds of Venice?)
If this proves to be true, I promise you lot that I'll write it up and post photos, like the vernacular railway.
Allegedly this gentleman has more money than sense, but I need to find a way of getting music to play in this space when he/she/anyone attends the call of nature.
The requirements boil down to this;
1. Music starts when you enter the thrown room
2. Music stops when you leave the thrown room
3. THE BIGGY - Different music when you enter next time - can't start at the beginning!
I think we can pull a start stop from the light switch, but we absolutely need to have the music on a loop, (allegedly) he's said he doesn't want to hear the same music/s
t (plop plop plop?) every time time he takes a dump/piss.So I need some help!
A music player that runs 24/7 looping (he doesn't want to hear the same tune every time), the toilet light that on activation turns on the loud speaker, and when one leaves turns it off.
I'm astonished that someone would want this, even more astonished that I might get to work on it.
Any ideas?
Thanks
movement sensor connected to a raspberry pi.
Each time it's activated it selects a different track from whatever number you place on its memory card.
Plug the hdmi output from the pi into a bose (or similar) amplifier speaker with remote so that the client can control volume etc.
The only trick is to make sure that the pi's sensor isn't re-triggered by any further movements (sorry) when he's in there.
Perhaps you could trigger it off the light switch rather than a movement sensor?
Each time it's activated it selects a different track from whatever number you place on its memory card.
Plug the hdmi output from the pi into a bose (or similar) amplifier speaker with remote so that the client can control volume etc.
The only trick is to make sure that the pi's sensor isn't re-triggered by any further movements (sorry) when he's in there.
Perhaps you could trigger it off the light switch rather than a movement sensor?
Hahaha that's funny.
Blue peter hat on....
You could do this with an on-hold music player, an in ceiling PIR sensor and a low voltage relay with 230v coil (Normally Open).
Install on-hold music player somewhere, install in ceiling speaker (would suggest a basic mono speaker)
Connect speaker cable from on-hold player, to the relay terminals, then off to the speaker.
Install the PIR sensor, this will need a 230v power supply, install the switch live and a neutral to the A1 230V terminals of the relay.
When you enter toilet the PIR will activate, switch the relay which will make the speaker wire circuit and play music.... when the timer runs out on the PIR the power will disconnect the relay and disconnect the speaker wires, music will go off.. on hold music player plays on repeat 24/7 so in theory should be different music every time you go in there!
You could also connect it to the light pull switch instead of the sensor if you only want it on with the light.
If you do this, please let me know how it goes
Blue peter hat on....
You could do this with an on-hold music player, an in ceiling PIR sensor and a low voltage relay with 230v coil (Normally Open).
Install on-hold music player somewhere, install in ceiling speaker (would suggest a basic mono speaker)
Connect speaker cable from on-hold player, to the relay terminals, then off to the speaker.
Install the PIR sensor, this will need a 230v power supply, install the switch live and a neutral to the A1 230V terminals of the relay.
When you enter toilet the PIR will activate, switch the relay which will make the speaker wire circuit and play music.... when the timer runs out on the PIR the power will disconnect the relay and disconnect the speaker wires, music will go off.. on hold music player plays on repeat 24/7 so in theory should be different music every time you go in there!
You could also connect it to the light pull switch instead of the sensor if you only want it on with the light.
If you do this, please let me know how it goes

Interesting problem 
Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.
Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.
What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?

Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.
Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.
What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?
Edited by Driller on Thursday 13th November 06:40
Driller said:
Interesting problem 
Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.
Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.
What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?
We regularly do lights in bathrooms via PIRs. You just set a delay after triggering during which time it is assumed the client will have moved and reactivated. At home you have to be like a statue for more than a minute before the system thinks you have left.
Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.
Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.
What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?
Edited by Driller on Thursday 13th November 06:40
NorthDave said:
Driller said:
Interesting problem 
Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.
Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.
What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?
We regularly do lights in bathrooms via PIRs. You just set a delay after triggering during which time it is assumed the client will have moved and reactivated. At home you have to be like a statue for more than a minute before the system thinks you have left.
Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.
Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.
What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?
Edited by Driller on Thursday 13th November 06:40
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