Not sure if true, but music in the toilet needed - HELP
Not sure if true, but music in the toilet needed - HELP
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TheExcession

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11,669 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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I'm utterly lost on this one, but a fella I work with (and trust) is asking me to help out.

ALLEGEDLY

He has an eccentric millionaire client that wants music in his toilet. I haven't been there (yet) so I cannot comment on the house or person.

Allegedly, this fella has a 'toilet' room with a (big?) mural of Venice painted on the wall.

Allegedly he wants to walk/squat/crawl in there and hear music and the sounds of Venice (WTF are the sounds of Venice?)

If this proves to be true, I promise you lot that I'll write it up and post photos, like the vernacular railway.

Allegedly this gentleman has more money than sense, but I need to find a way of getting music to play in this space when he/she/anyone attends the call of nature.

The requirements boil down to this;

1. Music starts when you enter the thrown room
2. Music stops when you leave the thrown room
3. THE BIGGY - Different music when you enter next time - can't start at the beginning!


I think we can pull a start stop from the light switch, but we absolutely need to have the music on a loop, (allegedly) he's said he doesn't want to hear the same music/st (plop plop plop?) every time time he takes a dump/piss.


So I need some help!

A music player that runs 24/7 looping (he doesn't want to hear the same tune every time), the toilet light that on activation turns on the loud speaker, and when one leaves turns it off.


I'm astonished that someone would want this, even more astonished that I might get to work on it.

Any ideas?
Thanks



sleep envy

62,260 posts

273 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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How many versions are there of 'o sole mio'?

TheExcession

Original Poster:

11,669 posts

274 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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sleep envy said:
How many versions are there of 'o sole mio'?
That's quite funny! hehe

Any chance you can advise on some equipment I can look at to get this sorted wink

Blues

8,546 posts

243 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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I would have thought movement sensors to activate light and music?

nyt

1,925 posts

174 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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movement sensor connected to a raspberry pi.
Each time it's activated it selects a different track from whatever number you place on its memory card.
Plug the hdmi output from the pi into a bose (or similar) amplifier speaker with remote so that the client can control volume etc.

The only trick is to make sure that the pi's sensor isn't re-triggered by any further movements (sorry) when he's in there.

Perhaps you could trigger it off the light switch rather than a movement sensor?

MrSparks

652 posts

144 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Hahaha that's funny.

Blue peter hat on....

You could do this with an on-hold music player, an in ceiling PIR sensor and a low voltage relay with 230v coil (Normally Open).

Install on-hold music player somewhere, install in ceiling speaker (would suggest a basic mono speaker)

Connect speaker cable from on-hold player, to the relay terminals, then off to the speaker.

Install the PIR sensor, this will need a 230v power supply, install the switch live and a neutral to the A1 230V terminals of the relay.

When you enter toilet the PIR will activate, switch the relay which will make the speaker wire circuit and play music.... when the timer runs out on the PIR the power will disconnect the relay and disconnect the speaker wires, music will go off.. on hold music player plays on repeat 24/7 so in theory should be different music every time you go in there!

You could also connect it to the light pull switch instead of the sensor if you only want it on with the light.

If you do this, please let me know how it goes laugh

NorthDave

2,530 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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You could do this easily with a decent home automation system. I'd probably look to pause the music when unoccupied.

I've seen this kind of thing (minus the Venice bit!) Before.

Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Interesting problem biggrin

Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.

Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.

What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?

Edited by Driller on Thursday 13th November 06:40

CAFEDEAD

222 posts

139 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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TheExcession said:
the thrown room
That'd ruin the mural. smile

vx220

2,720 posts

258 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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CAFEDEAD said:
That'd ruin the mural. smile
Dirty protest at hearing the same music twice?

Throne!


NorthDave

2,530 posts

256 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Driller said:
Interesting problem biggrin

Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.

Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.

What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?

Edited by Driller on Thursday 13th November 06:40
We regularly do lights in bathrooms via PIRs. You just set a delay after triggering during which time it is assumed the client will have moved and reactivated. At home you have to be like a statue for more than a minute before the system thinks you have left.

Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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NorthDave said:
Driller said:
Interesting problem biggrin

Surely a PIR won't work (if it works like an alarm PIR) because at some point it will deactivate and stop the music then reactivate and restart the music. If there is a timer this will stop and cause the same problem.

Someone mentioned connecting to light switch, this would be much more reliable although less elegant.

What about some sort of alarm style under rug pressure sensor or infrared beams?

Edited by Driller on Thursday 13th November 06:40
We regularly do lights in bathrooms via PIRs. You just set a delay after triggering during which time it is assumed the client will have moved and reactivated. At home you have to be like a statue for more than a minute before the system thinks you have left.
Do you mean that after each activation of the PIR by movement the timer is restarted?